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Old 12-17-15, 08:40 PM
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1hr mostly ez this morning, with 2x4' at a moderate VO2, nothin' crazy.

1hr MTB at lunch, mostly ez, with 1 hard climb.

Next two days off, then a big one (5+hrs) on Su.
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Old 12-17-15, 10:22 PM
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someone just tell me how you can use a muscle beyond its capacity without strengthening it please. Any context. That's all I was referring to.
The body is pretty good at adapting to sub-optimal mechanics, but that doesn't mean they're not still sub-optimal. Everything's connected; if one muscle/group is not doing it's job adequately, other muscles may have to work even harder to pick up the slack. For example, back muscles having to take the extra burden of stabilizing the hips and spine if the core muscles aren't engaged and contributing.

For me personally, my biggest limiter on longer rides has always been back pain. I'm finding that when I do regular core work, it helps quite a bit (unfortunately I'm not always good about remembering to do it). I'm not talking crunches (which IMHO are of very little use to athletes), but things like ab rollouts, planks, side-planks, ab vacuums, etc.
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Old 12-18-15, 06:18 AM
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feeling a lot better today. going to head back to work. assuming i don't get a killer headache staring at spreadsheets all day I think i'm going to try riding again tomorrow. for the first time in a long time I'm actually nervous about cars :/
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Old 12-18-15, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jsk View Post
The body is pretty good at adapting to sub-optimal mechanics, but that doesn't mean they're not still sub-optimal. Everything's connected; if one muscle/group is not doing it's job adequately, other muscles may have to work even harder to pick up the slack. For example, back muscles having to take the extra burden of stabilizing the hips and spine if the core muscles aren't engaged and contributing.

For me personally, my biggest limiter on longer rides has always been back pain. I'm finding that when I do regular core work, it helps quite a bit (unfortunately I'm not always good about remembering to do it). I'm not talking crunches (which IMHO are of very little use to athletes), but things like ab rollouts, planks, side-planks, ab vacuums, etc.

so you build all those big core muscles and then you ride all the time but if you don't work the extra big core muscles they atrophy from disuse?
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Old 12-18-15, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by mike868y View Post
feeling a lot better today. going to head back to work. assuming i don't get a killer headache staring at spreadsheets all day I think i'm going to try riding again tomorrow. for the first time in a long time I'm actually nervous about cars :/
good to hear. me too! fever broke yesterday and I was able to eat dinner. Feel brand new today so far. Also had minimal caffeine the past 2 days, just enough to combine with acetaminophen to keep headaches away and this morning's coffee seems potent.

I am at work and plan to ride today and tomorrow before heading to PHX. Of course it's going to rain now!
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Old 12-18-15, 10:28 AM
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Six terrible 2's yesterday on way home(30 mile). It got cold fast and i din't put on my arm warmers.
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Old 12-18-15, 11:32 AM
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Hour of Power commute this morning while listening to a podcast about Frank Sinatra.
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Old 12-18-15, 11:36 AM
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Grab bag day, 1x20 Z4 and then some sprints. I went down a bit of a rabbit hole with the sprints, focusing on mechanical minutiae, and when I got home and looked at the file I was surprised to see I did 20 of them.
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Old 12-18-15, 12:27 PM
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Goddamn GC, you're making me realize that I need to start going some sprint work!!!!

First one here is 1/10
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my first race is traditionally 1/1 but at this point I don't think I can do it without being too embarrassed about my tan.
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Old 12-18-15, 01:17 PM
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Take it easy. Talk to your doctor. Don't get a second concussion (seriously).

Originally Posted by mike868y View Post
feeling a lot better today. going to head back to work. assuming i don't get a killer headache staring at spreadsheets all day I think i'm going to try riding again tomorrow. for the first time in a long time I'm actually nervous about cars :/
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Old 12-18-15, 01:46 PM
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Take it easy. Talk to your doctor. Don't get a second concussion (seriously).
+1 Maybe consider riding indoors for a few more days mikey to avoid even the small possibility of a re-injury.
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Old 12-18-15, 02:04 PM
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+1 Maybe consider riding indoors for a few more days mikey to avoid even the small possibility of a re-injury.
+1.

IANYMD, but I think you should talk to yours before riding outside again.
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Old 12-18-15, 02:10 PM
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i'm really feeling good today, i know very little about concussions, but I don't think it was a very severe one. the doc didn't give me a timeline on when to start riding again and statistically i've done thousands of rides perfectly safe. plus, i raced motocross for years so my brain is pretty scrambled as is.
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Old 12-18-15, 02:29 PM
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My girlfriend's roommate got a concussion (While riding his hybrid down the bike path) and he has been on disability for several months now. Glad to hear your healing up faster than him Mikey.

On a training note: I have been doing significantly less volume than I am used to. We will see if this helps me up the Z4 a tiny bit more this coming season. But it makes me sad to be doing less volume. I like volume
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Old 12-18-15, 02:32 PM
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My girlfriend's roommate got a concussion (While riding his hybrid down the bike path) and he has been on disability for several months now. Glad to hear your healing up faster than him Mikey.

On a training note: I have been doing significantly less volume than I am used to. We will see if this helps me up the Z4 a tiny bit more this coming season. But it makes me sad to be doing less volume. I like volume
Dude, your GF has a male room mate?
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Old 12-18-15, 02:44 PM
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My urge to answer that question with blue humor is strong. But I suspect would not be appreciated in mixed company

Edit: She actually has 2 male room mates.
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Old 12-18-15, 03:55 PM
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If it's any consolation, I was once roommates with a female friend and lost any attraction to her once I saw how disgusting she was!
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Old 12-18-15, 03:57 PM
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it's 2015 and we're really questioning females have platonic male roommates? jfc.
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Old 12-18-15, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mike868y View Post
it's 2015 and we're really questioning females have platonic male roommates? jfc.
I'm 35 so my situation was the 90s. In the 80s or earlier I think you had to have sex with your female roommates. Why are you more mad about it than dz who handled it perfectly? Moodiness is a concussion symptom.







and I'm just ****ing with you. don't flip out.
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Old 12-18-15, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
I'm 35 so my situation was the 90s. In the 80s or earlier I think you had to have sex with your female roommates. Why are you more mad about it than dz who handled it perfectly?
my comment was in response to misterwaterfall not you
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Old 12-18-15, 04:02 PM
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I know what you were responding to, I just wanted to mess with you but you got me mid-edit after I submitted too soo
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Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
In the 80s or earlier I think you had to have sex with your female roommates.

Before that you had to pretend to be gay, sort of, without actually saying the word or anything related to it. Otherwise Mr. Roper would kick you out? Or something? And your blonde roommate (the "pretty one") would just completely change identity between seasons sometimes, like some kind of proto-David Lynch statement. It was a madcap, wacky time.
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Old 12-18-15, 04:03 PM
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The real question is, does dz's gf permit her ankles to be uncovered around him? If so, how uncouth.
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Old 12-18-15, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin View Post
The real question is, does dz's gf permit her ankles to be uncovered around him? If so, how uncouth.
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