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Old 08-18-15, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by canuckbelle
Just did a 15min FTP test (it was supposed to be 20min but my kickr wasn't behaving properly and was making me go harder than I wanted). I held 256w for 15min. So I figure that's about a 235w FTP.
"Not to burst your bubble, but that's not a [FTP]."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQrLPtr_ikE
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Originally Posted by Enthalpic
"Not to burst your bubble, but that's not a [FTP]."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQrLPtr_ikE
Har har. People do use 8min tests for FTP, where they take 90%. We take 95% of 20min tests. So I took just under 92% for this.
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Originally Posted by Enthalpic
"Not to burst your bubble, but that's not a [FTP]."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQrLPtr_ikE
Also: wrong video clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcE0aAhbVFc
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Originally Posted by canuckbelle
Har har. People do use 8min tests for FTP, where they take 90%. We take 95% of 20min tests. So I took just under 92% for this.
Close enough for gubmint work!
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I don't even test anymore, just set it based on how well I do hitting my zones in training. Everything but an all out hour effort is guesswork anyway.
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Originally Posted by furiousferret
I don't even test anymore, just set it based on how well I do hitting my zones in training. Everything but an all out hour effort is guesswork anyway.
Yeah, part of why I did it was that I had a sense from training that my FTP went up.
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Originally Posted by furiousferret
Everything but an all out hour effort is guesswork anyway.
and even then it may not be a completely accurate test value due to a number of reasons.

Whats most important is that your Test Method is consistent - that's when the number you get becomes useful. Let's not forget about that "F" in FTP.
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I just go with whatever strava tells me.... and it aint pretty. (my FTP)

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Just came down from altitude.

Holy crap. The power. It's so easy now. I feel like a Super Saiyan.
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So yeah, Tuesday Worlds was fast tonight, everyone just went all out. Settled into a group and picked some riders off, was pulling about 10 dudes up feeling great at well over my normal pace....and my calf locked up. I would have been mad but it was an outstanding effort while it lasted.

My calf locks up way too much, I need to work on my hydration and other stuff cus I get them every hammerfest when its over 90.
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
Just came down from altitude.

Holy crap. The power. It's so easy now. I feel like a Super Saiyan.
so jelly.
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
Just came down from altitude.

Holy crap. The power. It's so easy now. I feel like a Super Saiyan.
I'd be interested to hear how long it feels like it takes for your body to reacclimate to a lower altitude.
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Another 3.5-4hrs, JRA
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Even though I'm in total JRA mode (no prescribed intervals/training) I ended up putting in an 11hr week last week (a lot for me), with rides both days on the weekend! I never do that. Now I have a -30tsb.

In the spirit of total laziness, I have decided to sleep in an surf the internet this morning, turning my 2hr ride into a 1hr ride .

Now that's more like it!
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Z4 day scheduled. One kid in bed with a fever. Another has #$!@# pinkeye. (which you don't get this way btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYXLKRNCVrw, it's most often just rhinovirus aka the common cold)

Anyway no riding.
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Overslept an hour and a half. Not even mad about it.
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Originally Posted by globecanvas
Z4 day scheduled. One kid in bed with a fever. Another has #$!@# pinkeye. (which you don't get this way btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYXLKRNCVrw, it's most often just rhinovirus aka the common cold)

Anyway no riding.
Mannnn pink eye is the yoko ono of kid sickness.
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intervals. it's dumb hot out.
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Missed CX practice this morning. Maybe I'll do a threshold test later. Maybe I won't. Whatever.
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I hate you all for this, I'm thinking of picking up a head unit with GPS, because Strava.

Dammit.
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Originally Posted by furiousferret
So yeah, Tuesday Worlds was fast tonight, everyone just went all out. Settled into a group and picked some riders off, was pulling about 10 dudes up feeling great at well over my normal pace....and my calf locked up. I would have been mad but it was an outstanding effort while it lasted.

My calf locks up way too much, I need to work on my hydration and other stuff cus I get them every hammerfest when its over 90.
I started taking magnesium supplements and it's really helped avoid cramping.
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin
I hate you all for this, I'm thinking of picking up a head unit with GPS, because Strava.

Dammit.
I'm going the other direction of less data. My quarq has been broken for like 2 weeks and it's actually kind of nice to ride without power. I still have time/distance/elevation though
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Originally Posted by aaronmcd
Overslept an hour and a half. Not even mad about it.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
In the spirit of total laziness, I have decided to sleep in an surf the internet this morning, turning my 2hr ride into a 1hr ride .
Hit it hard for a couple 4' sections (one flat and one uphill), 320 and 350w, didn't feel too hard. My fitness is so up in the air right now, I'm not sure how strong I am really.

It will be about 1 month before I formally test FTP and get back on the horse for real.
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