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Training Status??? (IV)

Old 06-14-16, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by johnybutts
I'm a 4. It will probably be a couple more weeks before I get out there. Trying to work up some fitness still.
Nothing to get you fit like crits
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Decided ahead of time to not race tomorrow night. Weather forecast + upcoming road trip + leaving work early = too much stress. Figured I'd follow last weeks schedule instead, so tonight I set out to do sets of: 10s all out, 1 min rest, 20s all out, 1 min rest, 30s all out, 1 min,....up to 60s all out. I did two sets last Tuesday and remember thinking they were the hardest thing I've ever done, I felt like I ate the fish from Airplane 2: The Sequel.

Barely made it through one set tonight, just wasn't feeling it. 51% of me thinks I made the right call, 49% of me is laughing maniacally while tearing the elastic waistband off my drawers giving me wedgie and calling me a pansy.
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Old 06-14-16, 07:02 PM
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Looks like cyclingtorrents is down, hope it doesn't stay that way....


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Old 06-14-16, 09:03 PM
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I can post in here again, sort of. Training might be a strong word, but whatever. Parked at T-Town, rode 1:39, AP 125W, 13.4 mph, IF .861.

T-Town was awesome, and the riding around there is beautiful. Gorgeous country, great low traffic roads. Met a guy in the parking lot that I rode with and he showed me the route. Lots of hills, bad for this fat guy, but fun riding.
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Old 06-15-16, 08:18 AM
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2 days off, I feel both better and worse?! Rest weeks are weird.
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Old 06-15-16, 09:15 AM
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Am somewhat over my early season humiliations and when on the TNW ride. Wasn't good, but not as bad as I thought it would be.
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Old 06-15-16, 07:57 PM
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Friday Saturday off, Sunday 150 TSS race, Monday Tuesday off, so basically an unplanned rest week. 3.5 hours this morning with a bunch of VO2 hills, hit 442 for 3:40. PR on the same hill is almost 10% faster, but still my fastest effort this year.

Supposed to drizzle in SF tomorrow. Maybe I'll do an early morning threshold climb near home where it should be dry.
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Old 06-16-16, 09:53 AM
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Had 7 5' VO2 intervals planned yesterday. Got through 3, power was down to threshold already, so I bailed. Today I feel like utter garbage. Totally exhausted. Partly the problem is I haven't slept great in the first half of this week due to race promoting stress. But I slept fine last night. Recovery has been a real challenge for me lately and it's cutting into my ability to train. What can I do to improve it? Could my daily ~1 hour (total) bike commute be a factor?
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Old 06-16-16, 10:07 AM
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i ride my commute super easy (<100BPM hr) and I don't think it affects recovery at all. i would look at sleep (i only get ~7hrs/night and really wish i got at least 9) and also diet. i also found that doing big weeks in the fall/winter really helped boost my ability to recover.
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Old 06-16-16, 10:12 AM
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Purgatory was really hard and then you did not sleep well. That is enough to make you feel like crap. Mine was ~280TSS and I wasn't able to sleep well night after, and I'm on rest week and only starting to feel normal today. My ride yesterday was 1.5hrs @ 160w which is like mid z1 and it felt really not that great. There is no way I could've pulled off vo2.

My point is it sounds like your body is reacting like one normally should!
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Old 06-16-16, 10:17 AM
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Yeah like you said you did ~260TSS. That + ****ty sleep and life stress = bad legs. Don't wind yourself up over it, I think it makes sense.
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Old 06-16-16, 10:20 AM
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Yeah that's a good point. When I saw those 5' intervals on my schedule I was like WTF that looks impossible. And so it proved! I'll probably pass on the tempo work I had scheduled for today. I'm just so wrecked, all I'd be doing is digging a hole.
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Old 06-16-16, 10:27 AM
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I don't think all TSS is created equal either. I did a 260tss ride last tuesday and felt totally fine after but most of it was tempo and threshold with a small bit of vo2. At purgatory I recorded 27min of z6/z6+, 17min of z5, and 26min of z4, but because you spend time coasting while racing it only wound up 280tss and my body felt ruined on Monday and Tuesday. So don't be all like wtf in training I can do 300tss and ride the next day and feel fine, cuz IMO training TSS isn't necessarily as hard as racing TSS.
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Old 06-16-16, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin
I don't think all TSS is created equal either. I did a 260tss ride last tuesday and felt totally fine after but most of it was tempo and threshold with a small bit of vo2. At purgatory I recorded 27min of z6/z6+, 17min of z5, and 26min of z4, but because you spend time coasting while racing it only wound up 280tss and my body felt ruined on Monday and Tuesday. So don't be all like wtf in training I can do 300tss and ride the next day and feel fine, cuz IMO training TSS isn't necessarily as hard as racing TSS.
Heh, yeah. For me, 30 minutes anaerobic/neuromuscular, 11 min VO2, 13 min threshold. Pretty much all of my time in Z2/Z3 probably just passing through on the way to higher zones. Bike racing = hard.
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I also did a low power workout. Yesterday as I just kept hammering climbs I thought to myself, "you feel too good, keep this up and tomorrow won't be so great." I was right, but I did manage to hit 90% for the 37' climb. But it was really hard. 215 TSS yesterday, 100 today.

Probably good that I only got in 100, means I'll be better rested for racing on Saturday, and seeing how much TSS I can accumulate on Sunday.
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on my own list of woes, i think i'm getting sick again. scratchy throat and all that garbage. felt fine on my ride but have felt progressively worse throughout the day. and i can't even blame race promoting stress like grolby. solid prep going into 4 days of 12 hour work days with a day full of crits in the middle. commence zinc and emergen-c overdose.
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Old 06-16-16, 11:46 AM
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Standing hill climbs suck with messed up ribs. Apparently there are lots of stabilizing muscles that need to work up in there. I was sweating, and not because it was hot. I wanted to hit Wachusett on Saturday but we'll see. Luckily I have practice not breathing from asthma, and I'm going to get a lot better at belly breathing because that doesn't hurt at all.
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin
I don't think all TSS is created equal either.
This. I realized it when I switched to getting coached by Joe. I was easily cranking out 800-1000 TSS weeks, no sweat. So we took that and changed it from low-intensity TSS to high-intensity TSS. I blew up in like 2 weeks.
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Originally Posted by grolby
Yeah that's a good point. When I saw those 5' intervals on my schedule I was like WTF that looks impossible. And so it proved! I'll probably pass on the tempo work I had scheduled for today. I'm just so wrecked, all I'd be doing is digging a hole.
This could also have been part of the problem. I don't know about you, but for me, my mental attitude about my workout can be a major factor in whether I succeed at it.
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Sure, but I've also dreaded something and then gone and knocked it out. I felt guilty about bailing when I did - I really wanted to do at least four of the seven - but given how I felt this morning, it's hard to imagine that it would've done me any good. I feel a bit better now, still pretty tired but not falling asleep on my feet. Still probably going to take it easy tonight, do some tempo work tomorrow.
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Been suffering from a cold since Saturday. Yesterday HOT 96 Deg & humid Crit 4/5 got 6th/70 and 3/4 mid pack. Totally forgot i was sick till i was getting dizzy after 3/4
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Woke up tired, got on the bike for work and felt my eyes closing, so I just drove in. My 6 week commuting streak is over =\
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Spent some time changing position on the trainer. Pushed seat back until my lower back no longer felt scrunched up, lowered seat until there was no pulling behind the knee. Then rode outside and tweaked some more, mostly easy spin with a couple of holy **** this is awesome efforts that are probably a mixture of placebo and rest week.
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I adjusted my saddle up about 3mm and felt 10% stronger today. Placebo it is.

I also slept last night w/o an alarm and got an extra 30 minutes.
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Training status: Pizza. and a glass of Single Barrel Blanton's.

Good week so far though: 4 hrs saddle time so far, and 8 more planned over the next 3 days.
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