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Old 11-28-16, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by scheibo View Post
everyday? in addition to the recovery days where you were already supposed to be riding it?
yeah. I did 1:45 on it yesterday at low intensity and I'm sore today. there's a lot of adaptation that needs to happen.
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Old 11-28-16, 11:09 PM
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Trainer. Both my hands have various swollen fingers, etc. Nothing's broken, so hopefully I can ride outside tomorrow. Feels like I got the crap kicked out of me. Everything is sore today.

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Old 11-29-16, 10:02 AM
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yesterday 1.5 hr plus 4x4 at 260 watts, just being lazy not to do ftp test yet but i know i need to.
Today commute zone 1&2 plus ham & glutes workout at lunch
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Old 11-29-16, 11:39 AM
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New PB 20min by 10w yesterday. Now I do some chillin for 2 weeks and start up base in mid december.
10W is pretty huge, congrats! Anything in particular you would attribute the improvement to?
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Old 11-29-16, 11:45 AM
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TT bike every day lasted two days. Too many non-muscle things hurt for me to ride my usual volume on that bike and not injure myself via tmts. Officially in training-to-train mode where I'll ride it as much as I can, but have to listen to my tendons and **** too.
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Old 11-29-16, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by scheibo View Post
10W is pretty huge, congrats! Anything in particular you would attribute the improvement to?
Yeah, thanks, from a w/kg perspective and raw watts perspective I'm right where I wanted to be in the spring actually, so I'm upping the goal another 10-20w since I seem to respond really well to high volume endurance work. The VI was 1.0 across the whole thing as well so I could probably have squeezed a bit more out of it? I was in uncharted territory and didn't really know what to do with myself when my legs weren't fading despite overshooting my goal by so much.

The improvement is basically due to my vo2 power being up like 6-7% this year via a lot of hard work and a lot of learning the ropes in the 1/2 races. I guess higher vo2 power raises your theoretical FTP ceiling a similar amount, so it was just a question of actually doing some focused FTP work, which I did over the past month as prep for base, the idea being higher FTP = higher z2 watts = you can burn more kj. At the beginning of the block (4 weeks ago?) my 20min was 12w lower than it is now. In terms of raw % over my previous PB FTP I am up about 2.5%, so I would guess I can probably snag another 10-15W relatively easily. ...not that the work will be easy to do, but I mean that by simply doing the work the watts will come around pretty quickly.
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Old 11-29-16, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by topflightpro View Post
No riding for me this past week. Spent the week wandering Paris. Lots of walking. And there are a ton of stairs here. I'd hate to be in a wheelchair here. Not sure I'd be able to get around.

Also, I learned the hard way that the short line to get in the Eiffel Tower is the line to the stairs.
Sounds like you had helluva time
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Old 11-29-16, 04:36 PM
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Intervals on my lunch and breaks. With my sore wrists and fingers, there's no way I can stay upright if I hit a pothole so riding tonight is out. Might try out zwifting.
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Old 11-29-16, 05:02 PM
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4 x (3'+3') over/unders. Going to add one a week.
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Old 11-30-16, 12:39 PM
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90 min of ez this morning, second ride of the rest week. 1x10' at mid/high z4, but otherwise z1.

I felt pretty sore, and I'm not sure if it's fatigue from the previous training block, or the company sponsored workout that I did yesterday. It involved jogging, squats, lunges and long jumps, among some upper body stuff. I think that I'm going to try to do them once/week before easy or off days on the bike, just to stay more well rounded.
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Old 11-30-16, 01:01 PM
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Semi - rest week last week, just lower volume, but still a couple of sweet spot & big gear efforts.

Side note, big gear work on my TacX Bushido felt ridiculously hard compared to out on the road. I wonder if it's due to the lack of inertia?

Overdid it on pizza & cookies @ the team kit fit day Monday x_x
Weights after that. They're getting heavier now! Glutes and quads are sore today. Still going to be doing lifting once a week through December, so nothing too exciting until after that. Duration for big gear & sweet spot work is increasing, though (but it has also been feeling easier, so I suspect my fitness is coming back, yay)

My appetite has been really hard to control lately. I started reading about some riders like Brad Huff that found they raced better at higher body weight. I wonder if I'd fall into that category...
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Old 11-30-16, 01:01 PM
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2x30' sweet spot. I thought I would be tired from yesterday's higher intensity, but instead it feels like it unblocked something. Hmm.
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Old 11-30-16, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by wktmeow View Post
Overdid it on pizza & cookies @ the team kit fit day Monday x_x
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Old 11-30-16, 09:42 PM
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'too cold' to ride in the morning, and when i was about to ride in the afternoon it was pouring rain. no rain was in the forecast, *smh*. sacked up and set up the trainer and got in an hour with 30s on/off while watching TV. made it the whole hour which was better than my attempt a couple weeks ago, actually having a big enough fan must have helped (still lots of sweat though...), as did the short sets and having TV to help distract from the misery. im happy i wasn't able to talk myself out of getting in a ride...

still, it'd better not rain tomorrow.
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Old 12-01-16, 09:59 AM
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omg off season break = sleeping 9-10hrs/night and inexplicably tired. Apparently the r&r is needed!
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Old 12-01-16, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by scheibo View Post
'too cold' to ride in the morning, and when i was about to ride in the afternoon it was pouring rain. no rain was in the forecast, *smh*. sacked up and set up the trainer and got in an hour with 30s on/off while watching TV. made it the whole hour which was better than my attempt a couple weeks ago, actually having a big enough fan must have helped (still lots of sweat though...), as did the short sets and having TV to help distract from the misery. im happy i wasn't able to talk myself out of getting in a ride...

still, it'd better not rain tomorrow.
Um, it rained for like 8 minutes (Redwood City), then was sunny 30 minutes later. Though it is cold in the morning! I'll give you that.

I haven't ridden my bike in about 6 weeks. It may be another week until my bike gets shipped out here
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Old 12-01-16, 11:09 AM
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Um, it rained for like 8 minutes (Redwood City), then was sunny 30 minutes later. Though it is cold in the morning! I'll give you that.
Yes, but Mountain View's weather is not 'rated best by government test'. It rained between 1 and 4 and the roads were quite wet after. Judging by people's ride titles on strava, the rain wasn't isolated to just where I was either.
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Old 12-01-16, 11:22 AM
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Um, it rained for like 8 minutes (Redwood City), then was sunny 30 minutes later. Though it is cold in the morning! I'll give you that.

I haven't ridden my bike in about 6 weeks. It may be another week until my bike gets shipped out here
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Old 12-01-16, 01:06 PM
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Yes, but Mountain View's weather is not 'rated best by government test'. It rained between 1 and 4 and the roads were quite wet after. Judging by people's ride titles on strava, the rain wasn't isolated to just where I was either.
People comment on rain in their Strava titles where you live?
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Old 12-01-16, 04:46 PM
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Been nailing it since the season ended. Consistent 600 TSS weeks, and bodyweight below where I raced last season. In fact, year to date I'm 15 pounds less than I was last year. No drop off in power, though obvi my FTP is probably a few points off right now just due to training focus. Heading to Seattle for 6 days of meetings, and sadly a (much needed) training break.

My yearly hour total will be within 10 or so hours from 2015.

All signs point to things being on track.
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Old 12-01-16, 05:52 PM
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Yes, but Mountain View's weather is not 'rated best by government test'. It rained between 1 and 4 and the roads were quite wet after. Judging by people's ride titles on strava, the rain wasn't isolated to just where I was either.
I ended up riding my campus bike home because it was muddy. Then I had to ride it back in this morning.

Turns out 50/22 single speed increases my ride time ~10% both ways. Feels harder as well. Momentum and whatnot.
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Old 12-01-16, 05:58 PM
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I've ridden the TT bike 4 of the last 5 days. It will suck to see my CTL drop, but after 70 hours/1300 miles in both October and November I need the break.

Today I sat 5-15s behind the group ride and just used them for pacing. Was easier than I expected, but that's fine. I felt like I was settling into the bike well today and my 107 average HR for a 21mph ride without significant pain aside from the saddle being a little irritating was positive.
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Old 12-01-16, 08:34 PM
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Well, CTL dropped from 90 to 76 in a week, and I'm just getting off work so don't wanna ride now. Guess I'll try and compensate this weekend. And maybe tomorrow.
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Old 12-01-16, 09:40 PM
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Woke up late again, zwift after work. Z2. Ish. I get bored and let it creep up to z3 too much
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Old 12-02-16, 05:10 AM
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that was a nice rest week.

today: 2 hrs endurance

anyone happen to live in asheville or know of any group rides in the area during the week? i will be visiting next month and will have my bike with me.
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