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Old 12-12-16, 09:46 AM
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300TSS in 4 hours is bonkers!
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Old 12-12-16, 10:28 AM
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Did my first mountain bike race yesterday (Dawn to dusk 10 hour race) and made it to the podium. My longest ride on a mountain bike had been 40 miles, yesterday I managed 125 miles for 3rd place solo, and it hurt so much! Biggest achievement was probably staying upright on the bike for 10 hours, no crashes or mechanicals :-)
Earned my highest ever suffer score on Strava too https://www.strava.com/activities/799015572
Darn! great job! that's a loong day on a MTB let alone race
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Old 12-12-16, 11:20 AM
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taking the day off, don't really want to, but I'm trying to "trust the process" (really, I'm only answering to myself, it's not like I'm being coached). figured if I rode 8 days in a row after basically being off a month, I should probably take a day, even though my tsb just got to -1 today.
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Old 12-12-16, 02:29 PM
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2 hrs w 2x30' on Fiesta, SST. Aimed for high z4 at first.

Legs were heavy this morning so I kicked my power targets down and completed the ride. I forget sometimes that I shouldn't always aim for the same % for a workout when it's in the middle of a large volume base block vs. during racing season. Gotta manage dat fatigue!
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Old 12-12-16, 02:52 PM
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CTL hovering around the mid 50's. About ready to start into structure. Might work with a team mate/coach this year
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Old 12-12-16, 03:00 PM
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Old 12-12-16, 03:11 PM
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Coach just updated the next 4 weeks: 60hrs total. Should take me up to 90CTL, which is by far the highest I'll have ever been. Looking forward to it ^_^
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Old 12-12-16, 03:35 PM
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Old 12-12-16, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by PepeM View Post
I put them between the neoprene bootie and my shoe, above the toe box, plus an insole shaped one inside the shoe and stick to thin summer socks so my toes can move around a bit. Did three hours at 23 ℉ yesterday and three and a half at 32 ℉ today and my feet were fine. I find that constricting your toes with thick socks only makes it worse.
I put mine on top of my sock across my toes, and them my shoes go inside toe covers or neoprene booties. It does a decent job of keeping me from losing feeling in my toes, though I usually end up dealing with that odd feeling of cold toes that are sweating at the same time.
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Old 12-12-16, 10:50 PM
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45' z2 on the rollers. Was keeping it in z2 via HR, instead of the usual power.

Cardiac drift at just above 5%.. wanted better but what can ya do.
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Old 12-13-16, 08:36 AM
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Sneaked out early for a 2.5 hrs with 1x20, 1x10 at threshold and rest endurance.
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Old 12-13-16, 11:09 AM
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upped my weekday volume from 60mins to 75mins for this week. lubed the chain yesterday and that seemed to be worth like 10-20w
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Old 12-13-16, 11:39 AM
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2x30' sweet spot. Legs surprisingly heavy for a -3.2 tsb. Normally I have to get below -10 or -15. Might just be psychological malaise from the fog.
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Old 12-13-16, 12:14 PM
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I've come up with a new solution to help me speed up my workouts. I used to get up at 5, change my clothes, eat a small bowl of cereal, then start riding. Now, I get up at 5, change my clothes, then get on the bike and eat my cereal while I warm up on the bike. It takes me 15-20m of spinning before I'm ready to start doing any efforts, so it makes sense that I could spend that time eating too.

I've also had to put a humidifier in the garage. I found over the weekend that it was getting too cold and dry out there for me to really ride well. I need some humidity to ease my breathing.
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Old 12-13-16, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by topflightpro View Post
I've come up with a new solution to help me speed up my workouts. I used to get up at 5, change my clothes, eat a small bowl of cereal, then start riding. Now, I get up at 5, change my clothes, then get on the bike and eat my cereal while I warm up on the bike. It takes me 15-20m of spinning before I'm ready to start doing any efforts, so it makes sense that I could spend that time eating too.

I've also had to put a humidifier in the garage. I found over the weekend that it was getting too cold and dry out there for me to really ride well. I need some humidity to ease my breathing.
You're just talking about trainer workouts, right? I'm imagining a guy riding down the street with a bowl and spoon...
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Old 12-13-16, 12:45 PM
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Old 12-13-16, 12:59 PM
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don't know what happened, but i went from feeling bad and slow for the majority of november to suddenly finding my legs again last week. did 2 sets of 15 min 'punchy' loops this morning - 247W avg vs. 314W NP for the first circuit (~25s @ 500W+, ~1 min recovery) and 212W avg vs. 336W NP for the second (~45s 500W, 2 min recovery). NP doesn't mean much over a 15 minute period but still fun to see the large differentials.

in the past i've only done about 20 minutes total on these loops and then felt absolutely crushed. this time, i deliberately aimed at keeping things under control (~500W instead of ~600W) and didn't end up a broken shell of a cyclist. i could have done another set, which i think is a good place to stop when its december and im still trying to feel my way through this higher octane stuff.
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Old 12-13-16, 01:11 PM
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2.5 hrs of z1-3, low z2 avg power this morning. Just keepin' the legs moving.
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Old 12-13-16, 04:19 PM
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Chill Crush Cruise. 1hr easyish, 6x20sec high cadence awc stuff with 2min between @ light z2, 2ish hrs z2, 10ish min cooldown.
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Old 12-13-16, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by scheibo View Post
don't know what happened, but i went from feeling bad and slow for the majority of november to suddenly finding my legs again last week. did 2 sets of 15 min 'punchy' loops this morning - 247W avg vs. 314W NP for the first circuit (~25s @ 500W+, ~1 min recovery) and 212W avg vs. 336W NP for the second (~45s 500W, 2 min recovery). NP doesn't mean much over a 15 minute period but still fun to see the large differentials.

in the past i've only done about 20 minutes total on these loops and then felt absolutely crushed. this time, i deliberately aimed at keeping things under control (~500W instead of ~600W) and didn't end up a broken shell of a cyclist. i could have done another set, which i think is a good place to stop when its december and im still trying to feel my way through this higher octane stuff.
My totally unscientific hypothesis is that those high intensity sessions wake up your legs and get them out the rut.
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Old 12-13-16, 06:07 PM
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I'm not sure that's the case given I don't *do* the high intensity sessions *unless* I'm out of the rut already.
I think the more likely explanation is that I overdid it in October (1000+ TSS/week) and wasn't sleeping well, needed a bit of time to recover.
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I'm not sure that's the case given I don't *do* the high intensity sessions *unless* I'm out of the rut already.
I think the more likely explanation is that I overdid it in October (1000+ TSS/week) and wasn't sleeping well, needed a bit of time to recover.
Whoa. I have gone over 800 a couple of times this year and that was pretty heavy. I bet you needed a recovery!
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Originally Posted by caloso View Post
Whoa. I have gone over 800 a couple of times this year and that was pretty heavy. I bet you needed a recovery!
800 is my usual target, I try to hold around 110-120 CTL. However, a 3-week stretch of 1200/900/1250 was pretty tough - I usually aim to not go over 1000. I think I need to tweak my ATL constants or something so that I can use TSB to better predict when I've clearly overdone things - I usually feel completely normal through a heavy period of work and then fall off a cliff.

Next season I'm planning on not really focusing on CTL though, so hopefully I wont dig myself into a whole racking up TSS.
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Old 12-13-16, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by scheibo View Post
800 is my usual target, I try to hold around 110-120 CTL. However, a 3-week stretch of 1200/900/1250 was pretty tough - I usually aim to not go over 1000. I think I need to tweak my ATL constants or something so that I can use TSB to better predict when I've clearly overdone things - I usually feel completely normal through a heavy period of work and then fall off a cliff.

Next season I'm planning on not really focusing on CTL though, so hopefully I wont dig myself into a whole racking up TSS.
110? How do you ride that much and have a job, especially now that it gets dark at 5pm?

I rode for the first time in weeks today. Hills are a lot bigger on the west coast. Or at least in the bay area compared to North Jersey / NYC area.
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I rode for the first time in weeks today. Hills are a lot bigger on the west coast.
So are the watts.
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