Training Status??? (IV)
09-16-17, 02:43 PM
#9727
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rode 28 miles outdoors today, the caveat being I was on a 28lb bike dragging a 50lb kid, took 2.5 hrs.
09-17-17, 09:51 AM
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got myself a new fan, I had a lasko cyclone (a 20" circular one), and felt like it hasn't been doing much to help the sweat (seems to work better when it's cooler, but it's been warm here and it doesn't move enough air), and got a lasko performance pro, as I'd heard some recommendations for it. Gave it a test drive with a 15 min threshold effort, and it seemed to help a bit, will see how it does during the course of a regular workout in managing the sweat, maybe it buys me a few more watts lol.
09-17-17, 10:24 AM
#9731
Cat 2
got myself a new fan, I had a lasko cyclone (a 20" circular one), and felt like it hasn't been doing much to help the sweat (seems to work better when it's cooler, but it's been warm here and it doesn't move enough air), and got a lasko performance pro, as I'd heard some recommendations for it. Gave it a test drive with a 15 min threshold effort, and it seemed to help a bit, will see how it does during the course of a regular workout in managing the sweat, maybe it buys me a few more watts lol.
Made it through last winter with just that(~ 8 hours a week on the trainer). We kept the college house at ~65* and I would get sweaty, but not terribly uncomfortable.
09-17-17, 10:31 AM
#9732
Senior Member
I've always had great success with the square box fans from any store in the country. Aim it up, pointing at the chest.
Made it through last winter with just that(~ 8 hours a week on the trainer). We kept the college house at ~65* and I would get sweaty, but not terribly uncomfortable.
Made it through last winter with just that(~ 8 hours a week on the trainer). We kept the college house at ~65* and I would get sweaty, but not terribly uncomfortable.
09-17-17, 10:51 AM
#9733
Cat 2
Going to post a little road-season in review here.
Whew, what a year. Coming into the year, I had my eyes set on Collegiate nationals as the main goal.
Overarching training plan was to come into the start of Collegiate season with a big base and "race into shape." Spent a lot of time over the trainer this past winter on account of a pretty miserable Seattle winter and having a college schedule that was pretty conducive to working out that way. I'd spend most Saturdays and Sundays outside with Saturdays being a very intense group ride and Sundays being more leisurely.
Collegiate season finally got here and I had quite the eye opener the first week. Watching the Cat 1's(and 2's) just decide it was time to race and being left behind. Fought through it and finally started seeing my ability to race a bike come though. Then I had mechanical issues, got hit by a car, and got sick. String of bad luck in the middle of the season that didn't seem to affect my training too much, but mentally it was tough.
Had full intention of taking a two week taper going into nats but got roped int doing some bigger rides than I had planned and came in tired and not prepared for the race. Did not have good races in the RR or Crit. Dropped in both. It was a great experience that I do not regret attending, but I wish I would have had a better showing.
After nats I was left a bit high and dry with my main goal for the season having been more or less a bust. Raced locally and did one really big week of training leading into a trip down to UT to find my new home and first job. Then came graduation and moving. Where I thought I would lose a ton of fitness, I managed to hold on to some, on account of some spectacular riding on the way out to UT. The rides I did on the way out really helped me to remember why I like riding. Getting out, spending hours in the outdoors and seeing beautiful things and places.
Jumped right into racing and group rides once I got here and picked up a mtb to explore that side of the sport. Getting used to altitude and heat has been a work in progress, but it's finally cooling down and it feels great to ride in reasonable temperatures.
Just a few weeks ago I took 2 real rest weeks leading up to the state RR champs. With one big ride and one hard ride being the extent of riding that I did then. It paid off with my best result of the year and probably best result so far in my racing career. While it was only 2nd place, again it helped me remember why I like this sport.
Taking a look at my PMC, it looks like I fell into the same trap I do in so many other disciplines of life. Not wanting to back down. From January to June, there is practically no dip in my CTL. I just held steady. This goes against so many ideas of super-compensation, periodization... I know better, but it's hard to keep yourself in check. I guess that is the main reason for having a coach. Maybe something I need to look into for next season.
My big picture racing plan for next year is to attend the big stage races in the Southwest. Valley of the Sun, Chico, San Dimas. Maybe Gila, maybe Redlands. Then to refocus and attend some crits and do Cascade if it's still around. Looking forward to 2018!
Whew, what a year. Coming into the year, I had my eyes set on Collegiate nationals as the main goal.
Overarching training plan was to come into the start of Collegiate season with a big base and "race into shape." Spent a lot of time over the trainer this past winter on account of a pretty miserable Seattle winter and having a college schedule that was pretty conducive to working out that way. I'd spend most Saturdays and Sundays outside with Saturdays being a very intense group ride and Sundays being more leisurely.
Collegiate season finally got here and I had quite the eye opener the first week. Watching the Cat 1's(and 2's) just decide it was time to race and being left behind. Fought through it and finally started seeing my ability to race a bike come though. Then I had mechanical issues, got hit by a car, and got sick. String of bad luck in the middle of the season that didn't seem to affect my training too much, but mentally it was tough.
Had full intention of taking a two week taper going into nats but got roped int doing some bigger rides than I had planned and came in tired and not prepared for the race. Did not have good races in the RR or Crit. Dropped in both. It was a great experience that I do not regret attending, but I wish I would have had a better showing.
After nats I was left a bit high and dry with my main goal for the season having been more or less a bust. Raced locally and did one really big week of training leading into a trip down to UT to find my new home and first job. Then came graduation and moving. Where I thought I would lose a ton of fitness, I managed to hold on to some, on account of some spectacular riding on the way out to UT. The rides I did on the way out really helped me to remember why I like riding. Getting out, spending hours in the outdoors and seeing beautiful things and places.
Jumped right into racing and group rides once I got here and picked up a mtb to explore that side of the sport. Getting used to altitude and heat has been a work in progress, but it's finally cooling down and it feels great to ride in reasonable temperatures.
Just a few weeks ago I took 2 real rest weeks leading up to the state RR champs. With one big ride and one hard ride being the extent of riding that I did then. It paid off with my best result of the year and probably best result so far in my racing career. While it was only 2nd place, again it helped me remember why I like this sport.
Taking a look at my PMC, it looks like I fell into the same trap I do in so many other disciplines of life. Not wanting to back down. From January to June, there is practically no dip in my CTL. I just held steady. This goes against so many ideas of super-compensation, periodization... I know better, but it's hard to keep yourself in check. I guess that is the main reason for having a coach. Maybe something I need to look into for next season.
My big picture racing plan for next year is to attend the big stage races in the Southwest. Valley of the Sun, Chico, San Dimas. Maybe Gila, maybe Redlands. Then to refocus and attend some crits and do Cascade if it's still around. Looking forward to 2018!
09-17-17, 10:59 AM
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I have an a/c unit in our basement, but basically just takes the edge off a bit, but it's probably around 75-80 all the time. This place seems to hold heat during the summer, esp in the basement, it's kind of annoying, but it's nice to have a finished basement to workout, so it could be worse! Hoping for the cooler weather, oddly enough.
09-17-17, 05:09 PM
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I spend a lot of time on the trainer in the garage, which is not insulated and in the summer is quite warm. I run two fans, neither of which is particularly strong.
The saving grace for me is to shove an ice pack in my bibs on my back.
The saving grace for me is to shove an ice pack in my bibs on my back.
09-17-17, 05:16 PM
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Feel like crap. The kids had colds earlier this week, which finally manifested itself in my sinus and chest. Rode very, very gently to work, need to get some stuff off my desk, especially if I am going to stay in bed tomorrow.
09-17-17, 06:21 PM
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Going to post a little road-season in review here.
Whew, what a year. Coming into the year, I had my eyes set on Collegiate nationals as the main goal.
Overarching training plan was to come into the start of Collegiate season with a big base and "race into shape." Spent a lot of time over the trainer this past winter on account of a pretty miserable Seattle winter and having a college schedule that was pretty conducive to working out that way. I'd spend most Saturdays and Sundays outside with Saturdays being a very intense group ride and Sundays being more leisurely.
Collegiate season finally got here and I had quite the eye opener the first week. Watching the Cat 1's(and 2's) just decide it was time to race and being left behind. Fought through it and finally started seeing my ability to race a bike come though. Then I had mechanical issues, got hit by a car, and got sick. String of bad luck in the middle of the season that didn't seem to affect my training too much, but mentally it was tough.
Had full intention of taking a two week taper going into nats but got roped int doing some bigger rides than I had planned and came in tired and not prepared for the race. Did not have good races in the RR or Crit. Dropped in both. It was a great experience that I do not regret attending, but I wish I would have had a better showing.
After nats I was left a bit high and dry with my main goal for the season having been more or less a bust. Raced locally and did one really big week of training leading into a trip down to UT to find my new home and first job. Then came graduation and moving. Where I thought I would lose a ton of fitness, I managed to hold on to some, on account of some spectacular riding on the way out to UT. The rides I did on the way out really helped me to remember why I like riding. Getting out, spending hours in the outdoors and seeing beautiful things and places.
Jumped right into racing and group rides once I got here and picked up a mtb to explore that side of the sport. Getting used to altitude and heat has been a work in progress, but it's finally cooling down and it feels great to ride in reasonable temperatures.
Just a few weeks ago I took 2 real rest weeks leading up to the state RR champs. With one big ride and one hard ride being the extent of riding that I did then. It paid off with my best result of the year and probably best result so far in my racing career. While it was only 2nd place, again it helped me remember why I like this sport.
Taking a look at my PMC, it looks like I fell into the same trap I do in so many other disciplines of life. Not wanting to back down. From January to June, there is practically no dip in my CTL. I just held steady. This goes against so many ideas of super-compensation, periodization... I know better, but it's hard to keep yourself in check. I guess that is the main reason for having a coach. Maybe something I need to look into for next season.
My big picture racing plan for next year is to attend the big stage races in the Southwest. Valley of the Sun, Chico, San Dimas. Maybe Gila, maybe Redlands. Then to refocus and attend some crits and do Cascade if it's still around. Looking forward to 2018!
Whew, what a year. Coming into the year, I had my eyes set on Collegiate nationals as the main goal.
Overarching training plan was to come into the start of Collegiate season with a big base and "race into shape." Spent a lot of time over the trainer this past winter on account of a pretty miserable Seattle winter and having a college schedule that was pretty conducive to working out that way. I'd spend most Saturdays and Sundays outside with Saturdays being a very intense group ride and Sundays being more leisurely.
Collegiate season finally got here and I had quite the eye opener the first week. Watching the Cat 1's(and 2's) just decide it was time to race and being left behind. Fought through it and finally started seeing my ability to race a bike come though. Then I had mechanical issues, got hit by a car, and got sick. String of bad luck in the middle of the season that didn't seem to affect my training too much, but mentally it was tough.
Had full intention of taking a two week taper going into nats but got roped int doing some bigger rides than I had planned and came in tired and not prepared for the race. Did not have good races in the RR or Crit. Dropped in both. It was a great experience that I do not regret attending, but I wish I would have had a better showing.
After nats I was left a bit high and dry with my main goal for the season having been more or less a bust. Raced locally and did one really big week of training leading into a trip down to UT to find my new home and first job. Then came graduation and moving. Where I thought I would lose a ton of fitness, I managed to hold on to some, on account of some spectacular riding on the way out to UT. The rides I did on the way out really helped me to remember why I like riding. Getting out, spending hours in the outdoors and seeing beautiful things and places.
Jumped right into racing and group rides once I got here and picked up a mtb to explore that side of the sport. Getting used to altitude and heat has been a work in progress, but it's finally cooling down and it feels great to ride in reasonable temperatures.
Just a few weeks ago I took 2 real rest weeks leading up to the state RR champs. With one big ride and one hard ride being the extent of riding that I did then. It paid off with my best result of the year and probably best result so far in my racing career. While it was only 2nd place, again it helped me remember why I like this sport.
Taking a look at my PMC, it looks like I fell into the same trap I do in so many other disciplines of life. Not wanting to back down. From January to June, there is practically no dip in my CTL. I just held steady. This goes against so many ideas of super-compensation, periodization... I know better, but it's hard to keep yourself in check. I guess that is the main reason for having a coach. Maybe something I need to look into for next season.
My big picture racing plan for next year is to attend the big stage races in the Southwest. Valley of the Sun, Chico, San Dimas. Maybe Gila, maybe Redlands. Then to refocus and attend some crits and do Cascade if it's still around. Looking forward to 2018!
09-17-17, 06:29 PM
#9739
Cat 2
Yeah, blue line is CTL, purple line is ATL, yellow line is TSB, Green is RR (I think, I never look at it). This graph was generated on the Coggan method, but it's nigh on identical to the Skiba, just shifted up about 10 points. Not sure how they are each calculated tbh.
And thanks for the compliment. I didn't mark every race or major life event in there. If I did you would just see a barcode
.
And thanks for the compliment. I didn't mark every race or major life event in there. If I did you would just see a barcode
.
09-17-17, 07:15 PM
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Has anyone checked in on @scheibo? He was last posting about his MRSA or whatever and has disappeared off the face of the forums.
@schiebo is alive, moaning about his performance on facebook. Burned out or something.
tl;dr: took a bit of a break from BF. logged back on a week or two ago and have been lurking a bit, but I was cold turkey for a couple of months while i sorted things out. i've been pretty swamped with work for the last 6 months and the bits of free time i used to be able to spend on the forums were replaced with reviewing copious amounts of code. ive also not been riding very well so i found it depressing to log on.
after coming back from my crash and infection back in April my performance was steadily declining for reasons i couldn't figure out. i chalked it up to maybe overtraining (because that's always a risk for me) or travel (i went to Germany for a week to compete in some team running thing which we ended up winning, and then spent a couple weeks home in Canada), but even during travel i found time to train. however, i think that was part of the problem - i think i've learned this year that stress outside of the time you put in on the bike also can contribute to your overall 'load' - lots of work stress, travel stress, etc that doesnt get added to the PMC still happens and contributes to performance.
however, i still wasn't feeling great physically, to the point where i went to the doctor to get my blood tested because i was sure there must be something wrong. however, nothing turned up, and a week or two later i started to get really sick. i spent pretty much a full week with what i thought was food poisoning and ended up losing 15lbs (~10% of my bodyweight) because i couldn't keep anything down. from this the doctors *finally* diagnosed my general malaise + my then acute issues as being due to not having taken probiotics after the cocktail of antiobiotics i took in May to deal with my infected road rash wounds. i didn't know anything about 'gut bacteria', and no one had told me anything about probiotics (and I don't know why i would only get really sick months afterwards?), but either way, finally, after months of feeling 'off', once i started taking them my health and performance improved dramatically.
i had booked a trip at the end of August to go cycling in the Dolomites with my father and some friends, and i was a little worried about how i would handle the trip, but once i started sorting out my health issues everything started looking more manageable. i ended up doing some great riding in Bormio & Badia (60K ft in a week!
), and my power on the bike has been coming back very quickly over the last week or two. balancing work is still an issue, but at least i'm optimistic about riding again and potentially getting back to where i was. i don't expect to be able to have the time to post as regularly, but its too difficult to lurk sometimes when there are people to argue with online 
09-17-17, 07:36 PM
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I really hope it was poop. It's the new hot thing.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8...luten-free-121
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8...luten-free-121
09-17-17, 07:55 PM
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I did a similar CTL analysis as Ttoc6 and for the past 2 years, it's yo yo, and I was really beating myself up over the lack of consistency.
Than I looked at the logs. Injuries, accidents, and illnesses were the causes, none of it was burnout; just a 18 month run of bad luck. Half of it is from my hip issue (FAI), which creeps back if I don't stretch daily. I also took a lot of time off from my last accident, which was part doctors orders and a vacation right after.
I did ride some during that 6 month window, and my wife found out and cried for like 20 minutes, so then it was agreed I could ride, just nothing fast and no group rides.
I'm so far behind though my only real goal is to get within 10 pounds of race weight (down 8, 17 to go) before Thanksgiving.
Than I looked at the logs. Injuries, accidents, and illnesses were the causes, none of it was burnout; just a 18 month run of bad luck. Half of it is from my hip issue (FAI), which creeps back if I don't stretch daily. I also took a lot of time off from my last accident, which was part doctors orders and a vacation right after.
I did ride some during that 6 month window, and my wife found out and cried for like 20 minutes, so then it was agreed I could ride, just nothing fast and no group rides.
I'm so far behind though my only real goal is to get within 10 pounds of race weight (down 8, 17 to go) before Thanksgiving.
09-18-17, 09:47 AM
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Glad you're back and feeling better @scheibo ! There goes any chance I had of beating you up a climb though.
Yea, strong anti-biotics can **** your **** up for a while. I try to avoid taking them for more minor issues, e.g. resp. infections, to spare my gut biome. Also alcohol.
Yea, strong anti-biotics can **** your **** up for a while. I try to avoid taking them for more minor issues, e.g. resp. infections, to spare my gut biome. Also alcohol.
09-18-17, 03:23 PM
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Saturday small 4 man group, hammer pace till break 23 miles then rode with another for another 3 hrs total 4 hrs ride. Set the alarm to wake up this morning at 5am and get on trainer, ended up snoozing the alarm. Felt easy waking up to commute 30 miles but not to get on trainer for 1.5 hrs.
09-19-17, 12:30 AM
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@Ttoc6 - thanks for the concern
tl;dr: took a bit of a break from BF. logged back on a week or two ago and have been lurking a bit, but I was cold turkey for a couple of months while i sorted things out. i've been pretty swamped with work for the last 6 months and the bits of free time i used to be able to spend on the forums were replaced with reviewing copious amounts of code. ive also not been riding very well so i found it depressing to log on.
after coming back from my crash and infection back in April my performance was steadily declining for reasons i couldn't figure out. i chalked it up to maybe overtraining (because that's always a risk for me) or travel (i went to Germany for a week to compete in some team running thing which we ended up winning, and then spent a couple weeks home in Canada), but even during travel i found time to train. however, i think that was part of the problem - i think i've learned this year that stress outside of the time you put in on the bike also can contribute to your overall 'load' - lots of work stress, travel stress, etc that doesnt get added to the PMC still happens and contributes to performance.
however, i still wasn't feeling great physically, to the point where i went to the doctor to get my blood tested because i was sure there must be something wrong. however, nothing turned up, and a week or two later i started to get really sick. i spent pretty much a full week with what i thought was food poisoning and ended up losing 15lbs (~10% of my bodyweight) because i couldn't keep anything down. from this the doctors *finally* diagnosed my general malaise + my then acute issues as being due to not having taken probiotics after the cocktail of antiobiotics i took in May to deal with my infected road rash wounds. i didn't know anything about 'gut bacteria', and no one had told me anything about probiotics (and I don't know why i would only get really sick months afterwards?), but either way, finally, after months of feeling 'off', once i started taking them my health and performance improved dramatically.
i had booked a trip at the end of August to go cycling in the Dolomites with my father and some friends, and i was a little worried about how i would handle the trip, but once i started sorting out my health issues everything started looking more manageable. i ended up doing some great riding in Bormio & Badia (60K ft in a week!), and my power on the bike has been coming back very quickly over the last week or two. balancing work is still an issue, but at least i'm optimistic about riding again and potentially getting back to where i was. i don't expect to be able to have the time to post as regularly, but its too difficult to lurk sometimes when there are people to argue with online
tl;dr: took a bit of a break from BF. logged back on a week or two ago and have been lurking a bit, but I was cold turkey for a couple of months while i sorted things out. i've been pretty swamped with work for the last 6 months and the bits of free time i used to be able to spend on the forums were replaced with reviewing copious amounts of code. ive also not been riding very well so i found it depressing to log on.
after coming back from my crash and infection back in April my performance was steadily declining for reasons i couldn't figure out. i chalked it up to maybe overtraining (because that's always a risk for me) or travel (i went to Germany for a week to compete in some team running thing which we ended up winning, and then spent a couple weeks home in Canada), but even during travel i found time to train. however, i think that was part of the problem - i think i've learned this year that stress outside of the time you put in on the bike also can contribute to your overall 'load' - lots of work stress, travel stress, etc that doesnt get added to the PMC still happens and contributes to performance.
however, i still wasn't feeling great physically, to the point where i went to the doctor to get my blood tested because i was sure there must be something wrong. however, nothing turned up, and a week or two later i started to get really sick. i spent pretty much a full week with what i thought was food poisoning and ended up losing 15lbs (~10% of my bodyweight) because i couldn't keep anything down. from this the doctors *finally* diagnosed my general malaise + my then acute issues as being due to not having taken probiotics after the cocktail of antiobiotics i took in May to deal with my infected road rash wounds. i didn't know anything about 'gut bacteria', and no one had told me anything about probiotics (and I don't know why i would only get really sick months afterwards?), but either way, finally, after months of feeling 'off', once i started taking them my health and performance improved dramatically.
i had booked a trip at the end of August to go cycling in the Dolomites with my father and some friends, and i was a little worried about how i would handle the trip, but once i started sorting out my health issues everything started looking more manageable. i ended up doing some great riding in Bormio & Badia (60K ft in a week!
), and my power on the bike has been coming back very quickly over the last week or two. balancing work is still an issue, but at least i'm optimistic about riding again and potentially getting back to where i was. i don't expect to be able to have the time to post as regularly, but its too difficult to lurk sometimes when there are people to argue with online Welcome back, glad to hear you’re still alive.
09-19-17, 06:28 AM
#9748
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Customarily at the end of a season I spend quite a bit of time off the bike doing other things. Met up with a family friend for Mexican food in slc (highly recommended a place called The Red Iguana if any of y'all are ever in town). Had planned to go for a run when I got back but it was late, dark and I was full of beans.
So I did a core workout, yoga and started a meditation plan that I'm hoping to turn into a habit.
Meditated again this morning and it was pouring rain when I got in the car to go to work. That is nothing but a good thing in my book! We will try to go for a run tonight, but not super stoked about running in the rain. If it's gross I'll hit the gym and do some light lifting or rowing machine or something.
So I did a core workout, yoga and started a meditation plan that I'm hoping to turn into a habit.
Meditated again this morning and it was pouring rain when I got in the car to go to work. That is nothing but a good thing in my book! We will try to go for a run tonight, but not super stoked about running in the rain. If it's gross I'll hit the gym and do some light lifting or rowing machine or something.
09-19-17, 07:30 AM
#9749
out walking the earth
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10 minutes of over/unders. Felt like it might be a PR, but came up a bit short. 355 for 10.
