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Old 10-06-16, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by tetonrider
assuming you don't have an accurate gauge of your BF% by region (DEXA or someone very, very good with calipers), then we're basically guessing here.

however, if do it right and you pay attention to macronutrient %ages, there is no reason you have to lose any power.

let's assume you are 15% at 170. you could get down to 155 without losing a gram of muscle. if you're at 10% now, then, yeah, you're gonna have to drop some muscle (upper body?) -- but people who are 10% aren't usually talking about losing 10% of their overall mass.

if you're talking about losing muscle mass (esp in the legs), you will *probably* lose some power, but without the info on your body composition we don't really know what is required.
I have no accurate gauge to my BF%. My guess is that I am somewhere in the 12-14% region, so yeah, I could definitely drop fat mass and get down. My honest guess though is that I will probably end up giving up some sort of power along the way, which I am pretty much fine with as long as it is from the left side of my power curve.
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
tbh, I can do a situp or a few. But I don't work my "core" at all, and I don't believe it's a factor in endurance climbing. UMD has a fixed spine, cannot do a situp and has no abs, can still climb.

say it with me, it's an aerobic sport.

I do imagine core and abs help in sprints, though.
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Originally Posted by dz_nuzz
I have no accurate gauge to my BF%. My guess is that I am somewhere in the 12-14% region, so yeah, I could definitely drop fat mass and get down. My honest guess though is that I will probably end up giving up some sort of power along the way, which I am pretty much fine with as long as it is from the left side of my power curve.
If you're really in the 12-14% range I really doubt you'd lose power. I'm 7ish, and I didn't really lose anything in most zones getting down there. The only place I'm not putting out equal power (increased w/kg in all zones) is at the top end, and it's hard to parse out if that's just trending down with age.
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Originally Posted by dz_nuzz
I have no accurate gauge to my BF%. My guess is that I am somewhere in the 12-14% region, so yeah, I could definitely drop fat mass and get down. My honest guess though is that I will probably end up giving up some sort of power along the way, which I am pretty much fine with as long as it is from the left side of my power curve.
there's a bunch of defeatist talk in your posts. fight to hang onto that muscle (maybe not all the upper body muscle) and the power. accept the loss only if it happens despite best efforts in nutrition & training.

like gsteinb said, if you're going from 14-ish to 7-ish, there's no reason you have to lose power at any point in your PD curve. any loss would likely be from a change in training focus OR if you are not fueling your workouts properly. (timing of nutrition is super important.)

you can do it!
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@tetonrider Well I thank you for the encouragement. I am just making educated guesses at this point so it is entirely possible that I won't drop power at all. I am guessing I will lose a bit of something though, not from a defeatist stand point, but from a realism stand point.

Hey, if nothing drops on the power cufve, great! But if I do lose some power, that is okay too.
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Originally Posted by dz_nuzz
@tetonrider Well I thank you for the encouragement. I am just making educated guesses at this point so it is entirely possible that I won't drop power at all. I am guessing I will lose a bit of something though, not from a defeatist stand point, but from a realism stand point.

Hey, if nothing drops on the power cufve, great! But if I do lose some power, that is okay too.
you can have your cake and eat it, too. ok, maybe a bad example here.

(i've gotten to 5% before while still having ice cream and some other treats, so it's not totally about being a monk.)
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