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Old 03-19-17, 09:47 AM
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Stage racing Newbie

Doing my first stage race this year. I have mostly done crits and some circuit races. My question is fueling during the road race portion. How many calories should one be consuming? I did a 3:30 training ride yesterday and fell apart the last hour. I'm used to riding for a max of 2 hours so I can usually get away with 1 gel. The road race is 48 miles with some climbing (Colorado). Also on a side note I have a slight cold today after yesterday's effort which I'm assuming is from lack of nutrition throughout the ride
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There are a lot of variables bearing on how much you'll need. Conventional wisdom is that one's body can absorb ~250-300 calories/hour. That's roughly a couple of gels/hour.

I'd start with doing training rides at least as long as you think that road race will take. Make sure you're fully fueled before you leave, and experiment with different things - gels, bars, drinks. Some of us have gravitated to Infinit sports drinks because you can get two gel's worth of calories in a bottle, and it's pretty easy on your stomach. The bottom line is to find what works best for you.
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The larger issue is training your stomach. I reject the science food cult and follow the time honored tradition of sticking with solid food until your body will no accept it. Your gut needs to get used to handling digestion on the trot before it works really well. The upside is you get a longer lasting fuel source with actual nutrients in it instead of artificial flavors, preservatives and chemicals that don't exist in nature. 50 miles in the mountains is going to be impacted more by your preparation before the race than something twice as long that really depletes every store your body can build up.

If I can dig up the gif of Contador downing a full sized banana in under 7 seconds, including unpeeling it, I'll update this post.
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More details on the stage race would probably be helpful - i.e. how many stages, what type of stages, etc.

I can't offer any real help on the stage racing stuff, I've done one stage race and I was garbage in it. But I will note that 48 miles doesn't sound particularly long. I don't know how much climbing you mean by "some climbing," but that distance wouldn't necessarily take much longer than 2 hours to complete. If there's a lot of climbing, and it is Colorado, it could take a lot longer. For context, I did a 78 mile Cat 3 race a few years ago, gently rolling terrain, basically no serious climbing except for a mile long kicker at the end. We finished in well under three hours. At a 65 mile race with 4,600 feet of climbing last year, I finished in under three hours despite having to pee so desperately for most of the race that I was hanging back looking for bushes, got dropped hard with some five miles to go, and took about a 90 second pee break once I was alone and out of contention, then climbed the final hill very slowly. Oh, and I had a nasty head cold.

So I think there's a good chance that whatever you're already doing will work reasonably well. Recovering enough for subsequent stages, though, is another question.
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This is the stages
https://www.sanitascycling.com/boulder-omnium

I'm usually pretty good with digestion on the bike, but never had to eat at a racing intensity







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More details on the stage race would probably be helpful - i.e. how many stages, what type of stages, etc.

I can't offer any real help on the stage racing stuff, I've done one stage race and I was garbage in it. But I will note that 48 miles doesn't sound particularly long. I don't know how much climbing you mean by "some climbing," but that distance wouldn't necessarily take much longer than 2 hours to complete. If there's a lot of climbing, and it is Colorado, it could take a lot longer. For context, I did a 78 mile Cat 3 race a few years ago, gently rolling terrain, basically no serious climbing except for a mile long kicker at the end. We finished in well under three hours. At a 65 mile race with 4,600 feet of climbing last year, I finished in under three hours despite having to pee so desperately for most of the race that I was hanging back looking for bushes, got dropped hard with some five miles to go, and took about a 90 second pee break once I was alone and out of contention, then climbed the final hill very slowly. Oh, and I had a nasty head cold.

So I think there's a good chance that whatever you're already doing will work reasonably well. Recovering enough for subsequent stages, though, is another question.
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Stage 1, Hygiene Time Trial, looks like it might catch a few people out. The winner can rest assured they are going to clean up.
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im hoping for a top 10 overall. I'm only a cat 4 so hopefully there won't be too many fully decked out TT bikes, but it is Colorado so that's unlikely


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Stage 1, Hygiene Time Trial, looks like it might catch a few people out. The winner can rest assured they are going to clean up.
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Originally Posted by briandelmo View Post
im hoping for a top 10 overall. I'm only a cat 4 so hopefully there won't be too many fully decked out TT bikes

hahahahahhaha
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Originally Posted by briandelmo View Post
This is the stages
https://www.sanitascycling.com/boulder-omnium

I'm usually pretty good with digestion on the bike, but never had to eat at a racing intensity
From what I've read, the Boulder area has a pretty active racing scene, which means it probably has a variety of fast group rides. Finagle your way into one or more of them, pick your preferred fuel, and use the group ride to practice eating/drinking at race pace...even if you don't need the energy for that ride. If you don't live in the Boulder area, you probably still live within a reasonable distance of a fast group ride.
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Why is this funny.?



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hahahahahhaha
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Originally Posted by briandelmo View Post
Why is this funny.?
because IME (admittedly in a different region) there is absolutely no shortage of full on TT rigs even in the cat 4s.
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Yeah it's the same out here, but I can dream.


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because IME (admittedly in a different region) there is absolutely no shortage of full on TT rigs even in the cat 4s.
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Winning at Hygiene takes unerring commitment. Nothing funny about that.
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