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Old 06-13-06, 11:51 AM
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Jans Tour prep starts tomorrow!

Tomorrow is the first big test in the mountains at the Tour de Swiss. This is when Uli is going to have show his cards, if he still hasn't found his climbing legs he's going to lose the Tour.


Stage 5 - June 14: La Chaux-de-Fonds - Leukerbad, 210 km
The real race starts here. If the first four stages of the Tour de Suisse have been about sprinters and breakaway riders, today is all about the big guns who will be scrapping it out for the overall victory. The first half of the 229.5 kilometre stage from La Chaux-de-Fonds to Leukerbad is lumpy, and then after a near-100 kilometre stretch with mainly flat roads, things get nasty near the end.

Following bonus sprints near Sion (188 km) and Sierre/Route de Sion (203.3 km), the riders will start to climb. The first ascent is humane enough, a category four climb near Varen, but then very shortly after that the road heads upwards with a vengeance. The 1376 metre first category summit finish of Leukerbad will upend the general classification, revealing which of the pre-race favourites are going well and, at the same time, giving a strong indication of those who may be coming into form before the Tour.
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I'm sure there will be a blog about this.
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I love him to death and really want to see him win the Tour, but...


...doesn't Jan's tour prep always start tomorrow?

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Originally Posted by dagna
I love him to death and really want to see him win the Tour, but...


...doesn't Jan's tour prep always start tomorrow?

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True.
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Old 06-13-06, 01:31 PM
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Heres hoping for a stage win.
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Originally Posted by dagna
I love him to death and really want to see him win the Tour, but...


...doesn't Jan's tour prep always start tomorrow?

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that's the beauty of der kaiser, if he wins, he's crushing der souls, if he doesn't , he's just training
 
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All the main contenders for this years Tour were at the Dauphine, with the exception of Basso. If Jan is at the back of the bunch on the climbs I'll say right now he's not going to win the Tour. This years Tour route really is pretty balanced, but I believe Basso can take more time out of Jan in the mountains than Jan can take out of Basso in the TT's. The rest looked pretty bad last week with Flandis leading the pack. If Basso has 90% of his form from the Giro he's going to crush these guys!
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To me, he always looks like he could to win the Tour around July 24th or so.
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Jan's apparently coming into form during the TdS; however, I wonder how weak he would appear if Basso were riding.
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Originally Posted by DocRay
that's the beauty of der kaiser, if he wins, he's crushing der souls, if he doesn't , he's just training
Thats the incredible thing about Jan, he's obviously the best, most talented athlete ever to walk the face of this earth. No training, eats too much, poor team with poor tactics, poor technique, large aerodynamically challenged head, can't climb, too nice and too lazy. All this and still the second best TDF rider in the last 10 years. If this guy could even work on a couple of his issues would have been the greatest rider ever. He must be laughing all the time at these guys who actually work at this stuff when he just skates along. LA weighed his food while Jan just ate it all...and whos the dummy?
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cyclingnews has been saying that Ullricj is putting a presence in as many breaks as he can at the TdS right now. They also mentioned something about him being excited about the mountains...

Let's go Ulle!
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Originally Posted by jkoman
Thats the incredible thing about Jan, he's obviously the best, most talented athlete ever to walk the face of this earth. No training, eats too much, poor team with poor tactics, poor technique, large aerodynamically challenged head, can't climb, too nice and too lazy. All this and still the second best TDF rider in the last 10 years. If this guy could even work on a couple of his issues would have been the greatest rider ever. He must be laughing all the time at these guys who actually work at this stuff when he just skates along. LA weighed his food while Jan just ate it all...and whos the dummy?
second place=first loser
 
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Originally Posted by jkoman
Thats the incredible thing about Jan, he's obviously the best, most talented athlete ever to walk the face of this earth. No training, eats too much, poor team with poor tactics, poor technique, large aerodynamically challenged head, can't climb, too nice and too lazy. All this and still the second best TDF rider in the last 10 years. If this guy could even work on a couple of his issues would have been the greatest rider ever. He must be laughing all the time at these guys who actually work at this stuff when he just skates along. LA weighed his food while Jan just ate it all...and whos the dummy?
No training? Poor technique? Can't climb?

what chu talkin bout, willis?
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Apparently the Kaiser was in a break for quite some time today, and then ATTACKED the break and went off solo for quite some time. He then waited for them (on the descent??), and then drove the break again....

Check out the photo sequence and captions at Graham Watson's site:

https://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs...nform&06TdSSt4
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Basso is not there, but Schleck is from CSC. 4th last year, he loves this TDS, and as during the Tour he will be fully behind Basso, I would not be surprised, if he tried to put the pressure ( with the help of a strong CSC team ) to make Ullrich doubt on his capacities.

Schleck to win mountain stages, Cancellara to win the final time trial would be a blow mentally to Ullrich just before the start of the Tour. I guess it will be either Ullrich beats them all without any problem, or if starts struggling, he will refrain from attacking at this year's TDS and stay on "training mode".
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
Apparently the Kaiser was in a break for quite some time today, and then ATTACKED the break and went off solo for quite some time. He then waited for them (on the descent??), and then drove the break again....

Check out the photo sequence and captions at Graham Watson's site:

https://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs...nform&06TdSSt4

This is a good sign.
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Originally Posted by DocRay
second place=first loser
That glass is 1/2 empty and you know it
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Wait, no, it begins tomorrow.
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14th June Tour de Suisse. The major players are in good shape:

Stage 5:
1. Steve Morabito (PHO) 5h37’47’’
2. Jürgen van Goolen (DSC)
3. Angel Vicioso (LSW)
4. Koldo Gil (SDV)
5. Paolo Bettini (QSI)
6. Jan Ullrich (TMO)
7. Frank Schleck (CSC)
8. Jörg Jaksche (LSW)
9. Manuel Beltran (DSC)
10. Jose Angel Gomez Marchante (SDV)
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Jan looked pretty damned good. Where are the naysayers now? This Tour could be an epic battle between Ivan and Jan. I'm really excited!
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Sorry guys, looks like 3rd was Contador, not Vicioso. My mistake.
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Originally Posted by jkoman
Thats the incredible thing about Jan, he's obviously the best, most talented athlete ever to walk the face of this earth. No training, eats too much, poor team with poor tactics, poor technique, large aerodynamically challenged head, can't climb, too nice and too lazy. All this and still the second best TDF rider in the last 10 years. If this guy could even work on a couple of his issues would have been the greatest rider ever. He must be laughing all the time at these guys who actually work at this stuff when he just skates along. LA weighed his food while Jan just ate it all...and whos the dummy?
All this babble is spot on if his only goal was to have a high placing, if his goal was to win then he came up short didn't he. To me that is difference between Jan and Lance.
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Originally Posted by tekhna
Jan looked pretty damned good. Where are the naysayers now? This Tour could be an epic battle between Ivan and Jan. I'm really excited!

Man I hope Flandis can find his form also, Jan seems to have his, I'm sure Basso will be ready, this will be an epic Tour!
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Did you check out today's TDS result?
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Originally Posted by Vinokurtov
Did you check out today's TDS result?
Yeah he finished something like 17s back, looks like he's got his climbing legs back.
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