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Old 09-02-06, 10:32 PM
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What do you know about Moots?

The good, the bad, and the ugly, on this alternative Brand?
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Old 09-03-06, 12:17 AM
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I want to know how all these smaller bike companies stay in existance with the Trek's, Specialized and Giants of the world...
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Old 09-03-06, 12:16 PM
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I have a standard VaMoots, and quite enjoy it. What specifically do you need to know?
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Old 09-03-06, 01:17 PM
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Most of what I want to know is the general - pros/cons, would you recommend, etc. I guess I'm hoping that if their are specifics to know, you'll inform me.

Thx!
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Old 09-03-06, 02:20 PM
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Well, first off, I decided to go with Ti because I am clumsy by nature and was worried that I would damage a carbon bike in a crash. I've already had two with the Moots and haven't had to do anything more than replace the top caps on my shifters and one of my pedal bodies needed replacing since it was ground down while skidding on the pavement before I separated from my bike and flew into a blackberry bush. The frame itself still looks pretty new whenever it's clean.

When I was shopping for the bike I tried Seven, Moots, Merlin, and Independent Fabrication. Moots and Merlin were the two cheaper frames, while Seven and IF were about 3-500 higher. The IF and Moots were the best in the test ride, although Moots appeared to have the better craftsmanship. Needless to say, I ended up going with the less expensive Vamoots over the IF.

Anyway, the handling is pretty solid and isn't as twitchy as on some other bikes that I've tried out. It's a good descender and quick bike in general. I know that every bike manufacturer claims to be compliant in areas for comfort but stiff where it matters, and it seems to apply for the Moots as well. The power transfer is good and yet it doesn't feel like I'm riding on razor blades every time I hit a bump in the road. That being said, I currently have a Dura Ace 7800 wheelset and am considering swapping them out with something a little stiffer, as they seem somewhat soft when out of saddle. Shouldn't have anything to do with the frame itself though, since they're not known to be the stiffest wheels out there.

Anyway, I built the bike with a Look HSC3 fork and Ultegra gruppo with a final weight of 17.5 lbs. I'm happy with the weight of my bike but if you're looking for something lighter I do know of another guy who built up his 57.5 compact with much higher end parts and ended up with a final weight of 15.3 lbs, so it's by no means a bulky frame.

Here's my current build:

57.5 Moots Vamoots standard geometry
Look HSC 3 fork
Chris King headset
Ultegra 10 group
Dura Ace 7800 wheels
Continential Grand Prix 4000 tires
Look Ergopost 2 27.2 seatpost
Look EDH carbon bars (these are sweeeet!)
Fizik Aliante Titanium seat
Specialized Carbon Stem 120mm (will swap out one of these days)

Anyway, let me know if there's anything else I can help you with. Be sure to check out the forum at www.moots.com and the Moots forum at forums.roadbikereview.com
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Old 09-03-06, 10:15 PM
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Interesting, i'm also considering a moots vamoots, along with a few customs (thylacine,everti) and a few carbon bikes.

Thanks for the input and the review site!
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Mr. Rhee, when you bought your Moots and were testing the other bikes, did you go to Ti Cycles down by University Village in Seattle?
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Old 09-04-06, 11:41 AM
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Yes I did Mr Creek. I was checking out the Merlins when they were offering that rather large rebate. Even though a purchase at Ti Cycles didn't end up working out, I still like that shop.
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Where did you buy your Moots?
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Originally Posted by rider100
Where did you buy your Moots?
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Originally Posted by rider100
Where did you buy your Moots?
Classic Cycles on Bainbridge Island, WA. I don't know what size you are but the owner has a 56 and I'm pretty sure they have a 54 stocked in case you wanted to do a test ride.
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I love how people get flamed for resurrecting old threads... but also get flamed for not using the search feature for previously discussed topics.
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Originally Posted by HigherGround
I love how people get flamed for resurrecting old threads... but also get flamed for not using the search feature for previously discussed topics.
yeah, you're right. it sure gets repetitive seeing a "where can i buy a moots?" thread every other week.
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they sure can work Ti...

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I'm going to be honest with you chzman.......I agree.
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[QUOTE=chzman]they sure can work Ti...

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Originally Posted by botto
See, even old threads can occasionally bring something new to the table.
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+1, and raise you a
at least i posted the link on the weekend... when i first found the picture, i was at work. that is the kind of stuff you get in trouble/fired for viewing.
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yeah, you're right. it sure gets repetitive seeing a "where can i buy a moots?" thread every other week.

Yeah botto, nice job flamin the newb. I knew you were good for something. It sure gets repetitve seeing your insane responses along with your postcards.
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Yeah botto, nice job flamin the newb. I knew you were good for something. It sure gets repetitve seeing your insane responses along with your postcards.
Someone needs to confiscate your search link.
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Someone needs to confiscate your search link.
he's been stalking me lately.
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