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Old 09-03-06, 03:23 PM
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USA Cycling National Championship *spoiler*

Well Hincapie won it. Three words, What a Gift. Like no offense to Hincapie but Levi gave just enough on the climbs to keep Hincapie up there with him but not to drop him. I guess it's team politics and all but still... Anyways great race overall, good job to Greenville, NC and USA Cycling.

PS Where did Badjadeli (sp?) come from!?! What a Voeckler like performance
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How do you know Levi let him take the win? I don't ask that to defend George or to be argumentative, just an honest question as I'm new to this sport and the riders.

It was in Greenville, SC by the way, not NC.
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Old 09-03-06, 04:08 PM
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Badjadali has been a top domestic pro in the US for a while now. Definitely not coming out of left field by any means.
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Question answe

Originally Posted by chadbryant
How do you know Levi let him take the win? I don't ask that to defend George or to be argumentative, just an honest question as I'm new to this sport and the riders.

It was in Greenville, SC by the way, not NC.
No problem with the question at all. I was kind of fired up at the time of posting anyways and in hindsight the move seems pretty elementary. Levi showed early on that he had some major power on the field especially over the climb. Anyways on the last ascent and the ensuing decent into the circuits he did just enough work to make the group hurt without hurting George. He pretty much whittled away (sp?) the field until he and George were left. After that point Levi and George talked alot (I'm assuming about the finish and how it would be contested) on the way in to the finish and from Levi's perspective it would be the smart thing to do to give Hincapie the jersey as A) Hincapie had a iffy season with alot of seconds before the Eneco tour B) Hincapie got screwed out of the overall at the Eneco tour (not inviting flamers here just imho) C) Hincapie will be riding in support of Levi next year in the Tour because Levi will be moving to Discovery Channel in the off season. So anyways that's just my collected assumptions on the matter nothing concrete just my opinion. Anyways I hope I answered your question.

Note: Don't follow US Domestic that much so that explains not konwing the other guy in the breaks.
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Old 09-03-06, 05:35 PM
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If it was in Greenville, NC, all the riders would have been too drunk to finish.
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I went to the race today. It was great. First real pro race I have been to. It did kind of seem like Levi let George take it. Everyone was pulling for George because he lives in Greenville. The whole race Levi was killing it but never pulled away from the lead group. Then George had all the gas left, and in the last half a mile george turned it on and it looked like Levi did not really care to much. So I dont know but it was a great time and a lot of good people working it. Makes me feel like going out and doing a quick 100 miler.

Should be even better next year.
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I was wondering why you put "Spoiler" in the title.
Is that for the people who plan to watch the race on TV tonight?
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I was at the race as well. Didnt see the finish, as I was in Cleveland park, just past the feed zone. Both George and Levi looked pretty strong all the way. Will post my better pics when I get back to work on Tues. Have a great Labor Day.
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By the way, does anyone know what times they were posting for the Paris Mtn climb? I want to see how I compare.
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if there was any proof that levi was working for hincapie today, this is it:



in all seriousness, it was pretty obvious Levi was pulling the work for George today. First over the climb on a 5 lap+ race? And It didn't look like he was slacking it either. On at least 2 of the climbs up Paris, it was Levi leading the group. When they came onto the circuit, it looked like Levi, George, and I think Badjadali. That was the perfect setup for Hincapie; be in the break with the other strongest rider in the field who spent all day leading out the climbs, and only one other rider.

I didn't mind it though, it made for some good pictures, and a good indication of next season.

Saul Raisin was there too, and he was really receptive to the fans. Came out of the VIP area and mingled for a bit with everybody. He seemed great.

Other Pics:

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/9235/3toalinetz3.jpg
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This was pretty cool to see:
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And this was the hottest thing ever:
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/4280/ownershipau6.jpg

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Originally Posted by Pizza Man
I was wondering why you put "Spoiler" in the title.
Is that for the people who plan to watch the race on TV tonight?
My bad, after the whole deal with Tour threads the last couple of years I figure you can't be too safe. haha .

2oz that's a classic picture there. Has Ekimov's hair always been like that?

*edit* to answer the question about Paris Mt. climb time I think that they did it fastest at about 9'30 if I'm not mistaken

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Old 09-03-06, 07:11 PM
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the fastest time of the day for the climb was 8:56 which was the first time up for Levi, and the George did it right at 9 on the last loop.
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Just read on Velonews.com that only 30 riders finished the race (out of 106 that started). Just curious as to why so many riders abandoned the race. Was it the heat? Humidity? Difficult course? As a graduate of the University of South Carolina, I know summers in South Carolina can be a killer.

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the reason why only 30 finished was because if you were behind by around 5 minutes at the start you were cut from the race because they couldnt hold up traffic because of the guys riding on pretty busyroads. So pretty much after about 60 miles there were only 30 guys left. But it would have caused huge traffic problems to have all of those roads blocked off.
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Here are some pics from todays race:







Not only that, but when they started on the closed course for the final three laps, I think there was only four or five riders left out there. Everyone else was waved off.
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Does anyone know when DaveyZ's contract is up with CSC, looks quite comfy sporting the disco bottles and hanging with the soon to be disco team members.
Could It be, an american team made up of a good amount of americans?
Dave Z
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Originally Posted by jrennie
Does anyone know when DaveyZ's contract is up with CSC, looks quite comfy sporting the disco bottles
where is he 'sporting' discovery bottles?
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Originally Posted by botto
where is he 'sporting' discovery bottles?


I think all the protour riders were looking after each other. I imagine since he had no team to help him, Discovery didn't mind him picking up a few of their bottles at the feed zone.
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OK. One bottle.

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I think all the protour riders were looking after each other.
Agreed. if I was a ProTour rider, I wouldn't want to be beaten by a domestic pro either.
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ok, so i understand exactly why Levi seemed to work for george.

But why did Dave Z join McCartney in setting the pace up Paris on, what was it, the second time up?

Did he think we could get away? Was he helping out George? What was going on?
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Originally Posted by VosBike
ok, so i understand exactly why Levi seemed to work for george.

But why did Dave Z join McCartney in setting the pace up Paris on, what was it, the second time up?

Did he think we could get away? Was he helping out George? What was going on?
Look at my post above yours. IMO It was PT against the local yokel domestic scene, and it would appear Chris Wherry concurs

Originally Posted by cyclingnews.com
"It was team ProTour out there today," said defending champion Chris Wherry (Toyota-United.) "It was obvious. We knew they were all going to work together, but that is how it is when Levi is going to their team next year. McCartney and Zabriskie, even though they didn't last very long, lit it up the climb [the second lap] and Levi took over and that as it."
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so Dave Z really wanted to see another protour rider win? even if that rider was unaffiliated with him?

I still don't see why he wouldn't want one protour rider to win the most- himself.
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Originally Posted by kchrist
the fastest time of the day for the climb was 8:56 which was the first time up for Levi, and the George did it right at 9 on the last loop.
Thanks for the info. I did it in 12:45 today. Guess I still have some work to do before I go pro.
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Here are some of the better pics that I took during the race. These were from the Cleveland Park loop just past the feed zone area, once the feed zone was shut down and they were on the short loops in downtown.

BTW, I was shocked at the number of clinchers in the race. They were definitely more than 50% of the wheels in the spare bike area. Saw allot of Ksyrium SL's and ES's. Also, there were quite a few AC 420's.

Ben Jacques-Maynes, leader of Sierra Nevada, finished 7th


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Race Leaders Levi and George


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Originally Posted by VosBike
so Dave Z really wanted to see another protour rider win? even if that rider was unaffiliated with him?

I still don't see why he wouldn't want one protour rider to win the most- himself.
I can understand hincapie wanting to win it in his hometown, but both jersies going to protour teams doesn't do much for domestic cycling
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