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Old 09-06-06, 12:28 AM
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My first race.

Ok I really hate making a noob post, but I've searched and havent found the exact answer I'm looking for. This weekend I will be doing my first race http://www.armedforcescycling.org/Re...ECYCSchopp.htm . I know its nothing like back home in the states but its a start for me.

My question is what should I do in between the TT and the race(sameday)? With that down I don't want to cramp up or anything. Should I be drinking, eating, or just relaxing? Any suggestions will be greatly appriciated. And if you have any other advice for me I'll take that too. Thanks
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Old 09-06-06, 01:47 AM
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Roll up a fat spliff.
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Old 09-06-06, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamPlayers
Ok I really hate making a noob post, but I've searched and havent found the exact answer I'm looking for. This weekend I will be doing my first race. I know its nothing like back home in the states but its a start for me.
If this is your first race, how do you know that it won't be like 'back home'?

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My question is what should I do in between the TT and the race(sameday)? With that down I don't want to cramp up or anything. Should I be drinking, eating, or just relaxing? Any suggestions will be greatly appriciated. And if you have any other advice for me I'll take that too. Thanks
maybe it's not such a brilliant idea to do two races on the same day, seeing as you're new to this.

that said, if you really feel compelled to do so, then if there's a big enough period of time between races (2-3 hours or more) then eat something, and chill. if there's more time, try and get a power nap in. if there's less, then still eat something, but make it a power bar or gel. don't eat too much.

also, while you're waiting, try and stay seated, or lay down. even better - lay down and put your feet up.
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maybe it's not such a brilliant idea to do two races on the same day, seeing as you're new to this.
+1 to that, but also +1 to the rest of the post. You need to recover quickly. The minute you're done with race #1, find some endurox or other recovery drink du jour and drink 1-2 bottles. Then drink tons of water till you're running to the porta-john every hour or so, if not more. Then, 1 hr before your 2nd event, start hitting the GU, etc.

But botto speaks the truth--if this is really you're 1st race, I'm guessing that event #1 is going to make you want to die, and event #2 might not be the greatest idea.
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Originally Posted by Dead Roman
Roll up a fat spliff.
While practiced by 75% of the field at the Race 2 Replace, I don't think this is a common practice in most events.
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Originally Posted by TeamPlayers
Ok I really hate making a noob post, but I've searched and havent found the exact answer I'm looking for. This weekend I will be doing my first race http://www.armedforcescycling.org/Re...ECYCSchopp.htm . I know its nothing like back home in the states but its a start for me.

My question is what should I do in between the TT and the race(sameday)? With that down I don't want to cramp up or anything. Should I be drinking, eating, or just relaxing? Any suggestions will be greatly appriciated. And if you have any other advice for me I'll take that too. Thanks
Wow, men's open, eh? In an all-military race? Be prepared to suffer, my friend... There will likely be some strong racers out there.
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Wow, men's open, eh? In an all-military race? Be prepared to suffer, my friend... There will likely be some strong racers out there.
if they race like the West Point team did in the early 90s, then maybe the OP has a shot at winning
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I've found in most sports there's usually more skill/experience than you would guess.

For instance, I played racquetball in the winters for a few years, and I signed up for the "men's open" racquetball tournament on my post. It was a seriously tough crowd, right up there with the most competitive local tournaments. I lasted 2 rounds.
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Originally Posted by botto
maybe it's not such a brilliant idea to do two races on the same day, seeing as you're new to this.
-1 -1 To this. Where is the enthusiasm for new racers??

Its a 4K time trial, its not likely that his endurance is going to streched to the limit going that far. That could easily be one interval for endurance training. I didn't see how far or long the points race is going to be, but just go for it.

I say have a ball! Do your best, enjoy the speed, ride safe, can't wait to read how it turns out.
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Where is the enthusiasm for new racers??
it's called 'being realistic'
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Thanks to all posters, but I'm the most realistic person you'll ever meet. I'm not going to this race to win. I've done TT's in the past that were all 10mi. That was back in 99'. I'm just doing this to get my face in the game for cycling here, and see how out of shape I am, so I can prepare for next season. I usually ride/workout 2-4 times a week. I'm not out of shape I'm just not in the cycling shape I used to be. Once again I know it will be hard, but its the last one of the season and I just want to see where I'm at so I can train for the winter.
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Yea I don't see that as being too big a deal especially if you are only in it for the hell of it. Do the 4K rest and eat a bit and then start moving. I'd be on my bike riding around an hour before the second race.
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Originally Posted by botto
maybe it's not such a brilliant idea to do two races on the same day, seeing as you're new to this.
The first race is 4 kilometers. The second race starts three hours later. I think he'll be alright.

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Yeah, a 4K TT is a little different story. I didn't see that the first time through....

Remember, LOTS of warming up before the TT. In the TdF prologue, the pros warmed up for several hours. But I'll leave it to the TT gurus to come up with any additional advice.
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Originally Posted by zimbo
The first race is 4 kilometers. The second race starts three hours later. I think he'll be alright.
dude,

not only did bvfrompc beat you to pointing that out, i thought it would have been obvious by now that i didn't click the OP's link.

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Originally Posted by TeamPlayers
Ok I really hate making a noob post, but I've searched and havent found the exact answer I'm looking for. This weekend I will be doing my first race http://www.armedforcescycling.org/Re...ECYCSchopp.htm . I know its nothing like back home in the states but its a start for me.
Have you ridden with any "local" riders who might be riding this event? I know while I was in the AF there were always some REALLY strong riders at each base I was at, and the ones who had been stationed in Europe were even more so most times. Looking at past results from these events it appears the fields are relatively small. Best of luck!!!
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I looked at the link, and looked at the team listed. Clicked on one, that listed her as an "Air Battle Manager"...

"Hi, what do you do?"

"I'm an Air Battle Manager."



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Originally Posted by DrPete
While practiced by 75% of the field at the Race 2 Replace, I don't think this is a common practice in most events.
Now that's funny.



BTW...if you drop an officer, do you have to salute?

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BTW...if you drop an officer, do you have to salute?
Being a Captain and having been dropped more times than I care to admit, I'll tell you I've never been saluted in the process.
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***Update****

Well I just got back about a hour ago. And let me say that I had way too much fun. After my 3hr drive I thought I was going to a regular criterium, but when I showed up it was a totally different story (see pic). So not only was this my first race but it was my first time on a "track". I did a couple of warm-up laps and found out there was a tail wind on a back straight and head wind on the front.

The TT was 9laps. Mistake #1: I came out too strong. For the first 5laps my cpu said I was steady at 25mph. I was good uptill lap 6 then it dropped down to 20-17 for the rest. There was only three of us in the mens's open and I was only 20sec behind. Had I paced myself better I think I could've done better. 7:38 was my time.

On with the race. It was 30laps. They combined mens open, womens open, and mens senior. Every 5th lap was a points lap. I knew I wasnt gonna be in the hunt so I set a goal just to finish. Mistake #2: I wasnt paying any attention to the anouncer. I don't know where the hell I was at but by the time I got clipped in the pack was through the first turn. So with no draft I just rode. The pack came around to lap me and I just hung out in the back. I dont remember how long I rode the draft but I got dropped again. Then I picked up a woman and we drafted each other for a while. Before I knew it the pack was coming back around and there was 5laps left. I hung out in the back for the first 3laps. Now for some dumb reason I thought there we were coming around for the last lap on the back straight I figured I would try to put up a fight. I pulled high and started a sprint, got ahead and went into turn three. I was dragging 2 other people. But Mistake #3 I forgot about the head wind. Mistake #4 I need to learn how to shift gears at speed. I picked the wrong gear and everything went to hell from there. So I just pulled high and rode it out.

All in all I had a really great time. It was my first race. I've done a ton of tours, last one in 99', but this was my first race. I got a lot of advice from the fast guys, and they all said I did pretty well for my first race. I'm officially hooked. I plan on training hard during the winter and coming back strong for next season.

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Originally Posted by DrPete
I've found in most sports there's usually more skill/experience than you would guess.
One thing that was made quite obvious to me in my first race was that slow people don't race, the pace was way quicker than I expected and that was in E grade, still finished in the top 8 but me and my buddy didn't burgle it as we were expecting
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