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Old 09-06-06, 10:48 PM
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Mount Charleston Hill Climb near Las Vegas, has anyone done it?

I am trying to figure out if 25s in the back would be enough for this event. I am a cat 4, not a mountain goat, but an ok climber. This web page I found ( http://www.teamcarina.com/images/Mt%...me%20Trial.pdf ) says the average grade is 5%, which I think I could handle with 25s if there arent too may steep sections. Do I need to get the 27s, or even higher? I know it will all depends on my fitness but if you can speak from your experience, I'd appreciated.

If anyone is interested here is the event website: http://mountcharlestonhillclimb.com It says it will be a mass start, which I do not know it means all the Cats start together? It will be a chaos if it is.
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Originally Posted by 1265 Lombardi
I am trying to figure out if 25s in the back would be enough for this event. I am a cat 4, not a mountain goat, but an ok climber. This web page I found ( http://www.teamcarina.com/images/Mt%...me%20Trial.pdf ) says the average grade is 5%, which I think I could handle with 25s if there arent too may steep sections. Do I need to get the 27s, or even higher? I know it will all depends on my fitness but if you can speak from your experience, I'd appreciated.

If anyone is interested here is the event website: http://mountcharlestonhillclimb.com It says it will be a mass start, which I do not know it means all the Cats start together? It will be a chaos if it is.
There's an ealier thread on this event and prior participants active on that thread:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...mt.+charleston
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I'm out here in Vegas for a few days, I'm going to do the Mt Charleston climb tomorrow. I'm using a compact 34x23, I'll let you know how that works. From what I've read about the climb, I think a 39x25 would be good, I don't think it gets very steep, I guess I'll find out. I'm returning to Orange County on Wednesday evening, I'd like to do the race, but I'm not driving back 2 days after I return.
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I would appreciate your input OC. I went up baldy up to the ski lift with 39x25 last Saturday, it would have been nice if I had a another gear, but I didnt kill my self, so hopefully it should be enough for this event. I hope I do ok, not expecting anything, just trying something different from endless crits which I suck at. If I dont do well, oh well, Im going to Vegas to shoot some dice at the craps tables anyway.
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A Cat 4 should easily be able to ride up a 5% grade in a 39x25. The question is what are the steepest portions of the hill. Find the steepest sustained grade. Figure how fast in mph you can do that grade, then go Sheldon Browne's gear chart and it will tell you what gear you need to do that speed at a given mph. Unless its very undulating (i.e. 13% grade mixed in with flat sections to average 5%) I'm betting 39x25 should be fine.
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Originally Posted by 1265 Lombardi
I would appreciate your input OC. I went up baldy up to the ski lift with 39x25 last Saturday, it would have been nice if I had a another gear, but I didnt kill my self, so hopefully it should be enough for this event. I hope I do ok, not expecting anything, just trying something different from endless crits which I suck at. If I dont do well, oh well, Im going to Vegas to shoot some dice at the craps tables anyway.
My guess, is that if you made it to the lifts with a 25, that you'll be fine doing Mt Charleston with one. I normally use a 27 for Baldy, I think no matter what you use, you'll be looking for more on that last stretch. I'll give you a recon report tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by OC Roadie
My guess, is that if you made it to the lifts with a 25, that you'll be fine doing Mt Charleston with one. I normally use a 27 for Baldy, I think no matter what you use, you'll be looking for more on that last stretch. I'll give you a recon report tomorrow.
I did an out and back Gped a while back:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=3662

Looks like there's really nothing that would require anything too low if you're reasonably strong.

When in doubt though, I throw on the bigger cogs.

OC, interested to hear how it goes. Looks like there's some optional stuff at the top that might ramp up past 10%.
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Originally Posted by Vinokurtov
I did an out and back Gped a while back:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=3662

Looks like there's really nothing that would require anything too low if you're reasonably strong.

When in doubt though, I throw on the bigger cogs.

OC, interested to hear how it goes. Looks like there's some optional stuff at the top that might ramp up past 10%.
I did my own personal "Attack on Mt Charleston" this morning . I started at the base of Hwy 156 at about 7:30am. This is a pretty good/tough climb. The #'s are kind of misleading, according to the flyer for the race, the climb is 17.5 miles long, with a total of 5357' of climbing, this works out to an average grade of 5.8%. However, since the first few miles are pretty mellow 3-5%, you get to make up for that in the middle 10 miles, with some extended section of 8%+, and a couple of 15-17% rollers. The other thing that eats at you, is being able to see the road for the first 3,000' of elevation gain. The climb starts of straight as arrow for a few miles, and makes a couple subtle bends. You start at about 3300', and can see the road all the way up to over 6,000', it's kinda like watching your water boil My favorite aspect of this climb is the contrast in climate. The climb starts in a hot desert climate, with Yucca plants and rocks as scenery. Around 6500' you notice the transition, where it's a mix of desert and alpine climate. Up over 7000 feet it really cools off, the road flattens out a bit, and it's an enjoyable climb. It was around 85 F when I started, and it was about 68 F at the end of the road at 8600'. I had my compact on my bilke, and mostly used my 34x19 and 34x21 on the way up. I missed my goal of 1:40 by ten minutes. I didn't really push it too hard, my HR was in the 155-165 range the whole time, which is about 80 -85% for me. I've had a little pain in my calves, and was not that fresh after riding the last couple of days, so I just pushed a moderate pace. The race this Saturday is going to brutal, I imagine my time would be around 10-15 minutes faster at race pace. My guess is that guys are gonna go hard at the start, and really start to hurt when it kicks up. Too bad I'm gonna miss it. I saw 2 others riding on the mountain, I thought I might see more preparing for the race. Next time I get a chance to ride that area, I'd like to climb Hwy 156, and cut across and come down Hwy 157, and ride back up Hwy 95 to the start, for a ~50 mile loop. This was my last ride while I'm in town, and I appreciate the inof/help you guys gave me, I enjoyed all of these rides. Good luck to those of you do the Mt Charleston race this Saturday
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Good report OC. I will have to watch my heart rate and pace my self before those steeper sections. I am little worried about the gearing but I am not going to buy a new cassette just for one event. I have a feeling that its going to get ugly. Thanks for your help. I am heading to Vegas on Friday, you sure you dont want to go back? I could give you a free ride!
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Oh man, I really wish I could take you up on your offer, I really wanted to do this race. I'm taking a 3 day weekend next week, to go race Everest Challenge, I only get a couple of those kind of "hall passes" each year, I gotta spread them out. I don't think you need to worry about your gearing, your 39x25 is a smaller gear than the 39x21 that I used on Tuesday's climb. The sections that are in the 10-15% range, are very short, you can just stand up and get over them. I was able to keep my cadence above 80 rpm for the whole climb using the 39x21. Bring a trainer if you have one, there's nowhere to warm up, and you're going to have to go hard from the start to stay with the leaders. Try to conserve as much as possible and make the selections. There's not much of an area to recover until around the 7500' level. Also, don't freak if you don't see the 7,000' sign, I kept watching for it, wondering WTF? I know I should be that far by now. I never saw it, but was very happy when I saw the 8,000' sign. The last few miles aren't steep at all (except for the last 1-2km). There's supposed to be a feed zone, but you shouldn't need it. I used one large bottle and gel or two on the climb, I probably should've drank more, so I'd bring two. Good luck, let us know how it goes
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Race report here http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=228996
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I finished in 1:46. Looks like the time is good for 76th overall and 32nd in 4/5 category. I am ok with that.

Overall results
http://tri-a-run.com/Results%20Files/CLIMB06A.txt

By category
http://tri-a-run.com/Results%20Files/CLIMB06B.txt
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Originally Posted by 1265 Lombardi
I finished in 1:46. Looks like the time is good for 76th overall and 32nd in 4/5 category. I am ok with that.

Overall results
http://tri-a-run.com/Results%20Files/CLIMB06A.txt

By category
http://tri-a-run.com/Results%20Files/CLIMB06B.txt
Good job.

Chatting with a friend who did Mt. Graham in Az. It's their state climbing championships, and a vicious climb (did it last year). Said their were foor impaired guys with featherweight bikes all over the place for that race. What was the Charleston turnout like?
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Bringing up an old thread. This race is coming up in less than 2 weeks and I was wondering who might be doing it?

Rode it yesterday with two friends. Pushed pretty hard and my legs hurt so bad all afternoon, I thought I was going to throw up. I did a hard 3.5hrs the day before and I think that did me in..LOL. I love this climb, but it is physically and mentally one of the hardest I have ever done and I am from Bishop/Mammoth Ca where the Everest Challenge takes place.

Just to reiterate what has been said about this climb/race: 5700feet in 17.5 miles and you can see 3000 feet up the road at one point; that really mind ****s you!!! The lack of turns and literally only one 100yrd (if that) flat spot for rest really does you in. By about the 12 mile mark you ask yourself "why did I start bike racing and why am I doing this to myself?"

BTW, my good friend who I rode with slaughtered it yesterday. His time was good enough for 2nd overall as well as second in the 1/2/pro per last yrs results. Considering it was just a training ride, that is amazing.

This race does attract a lot of sandbaggers though. Guys that are just climbing specialist; do a few hill climb TTs/hilly RRs a yr and have been 4/5s for over 4 yrs!!! LOL.

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Originally Posted by spinwax View Post

Just to reiterate what has been said about this climb/race: 5700feet in 17.5 miles and you can see 3000 feet up the road at one point; that really mind ****s you!!! The lack of turns and literally only one 100yrd (if that) flat spot for rest really does you in. By about the 12 mile mark you ask yourself "why did I start bike racing and why am I doing this to myself?"
That sounds like fun. I like those sorts of climbs. Which Everest Challenge climb is it most like?

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This race does attract a lot of sandbaggers though. Guys that are just climbing specialist; do a few hill climb TTs/hilly RRs a yr and have been 4/5s for over 4 yrs!!! LOL.
Sounds like me. Although I wish I was good enough to be a sandbagger; in reality I am just no longer interested in racing anything but tough road races and hillclimbs.
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Hi,

I was thinking of doing the climb when I was there in July but decided that it was just too hot (105+F) without any services (like water) at the top. I also saw that the race was in September but I can't get out there that weekend. I will have to mark my calendar for the 2010 race.
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Timely thread...I think I'll be in Vegas on Sunday...
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i really wanted to do this because I could turn it into a work trip and get the company to pay for room and board unfortunately, my reserve duty calls that weekend so I'll be missing it.

have fun.
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Originally Posted by ericm979 View Post
That sounds like fun. I like those sorts of climbs. Which Everest Challenge climb is it most like?

It is hard to compare any single climb from around the Sierra Nv. This is a short 17.5 with 5700 feet of elevation gain, almost a perfectely straight road for 90% of the climb, and an average grade that never changes. Bishop/Mammoth aera climbs don't seem to test me as much mentally (legs? sure!) due to the change in terrain (ie, turns, gradients, trees..LOL. etc). No doubt the Everest Challenge is a harder race because it is two days of brutal climbing as opposed to a 1.5 hour single climb.

Should be a good race. Looks like Neil Sherley is signed up for it this yr. He is going to have to work hard to beat Resh's record at 1:16!!!!! Can't wait to see his number!!! We have a local guy that races maybe two times a yr and is close to that!!!!!!!!!!

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Bringing up an old thread. This race is coming up in less than 2 weeks and I was wondering who might be doing it?

Rode it yesterday with two friends. Pushed pretty hard and my legs hurt so bad all afternoon, I thought I was going to throw up. I did a hard 3.5hrs the day before and I think that did me in..LOL. I love this climb, but it is physically and mentally one of the hardest I have ever done and I am from Bishop/Mammoth Ca where the Everest Challenge takes place.

Just to reiterate what has been said about this climb/race: 5700feet in 17.5 miles and you can see 3000 feet up the road at one point; that really mind ****s you!!! The lack of turns and literally only one 100yrd (if that) flat spot for rest really does you in. By about the 12 mile mark you ask yourself "why did I start bike racing and why am I doing this to myself?"

BTW, my good friend who I rode with slaughtered it yesterday. His time was good enough for 2nd overall as well as second in the 1/2/pro per last yrs results. Considering it was just a training ride, that is amazing.

This race does attract a lot of sandbaggers though. Guys that are just climbing specialist; do a few hill climb TTs/hilly RRs a yr and have been 4/5s for over 4 yrs!!! LOL.
I did this for the first time today so I could experience it before the race next weekend (hopefully I will be participating) and that pretty much describes my thoughts. Being able to see the road ahead didn't bother me really, but this was the first climb I have done that is this long and just doesn't give you a break.
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for anyone going.. Ill be there! I hope to make it to the top for less than 2hours and ill be happy with that.
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WOW, lots of people are signed up for this thing. Some well known pros are showing to see if they can break the record as well. Tinker Juarez, Neil Shirley, David Francis (last yrs winner and total bad ass). Cat 5s have 3 fields of 50 each!!! There should be about 300 total riders.

I would like to place in the top 20 times overall and win my cat. There is a sandbagger (been a cat IV for like 4 yrs WTF?)in my category that has won the last 2-3 yrs. We will see how I do! Wish me luck.
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There are plenty of sandbaggers! Anyway unofficial results show that im 3 mins over my goal. ..not too bad for Cat 5. Ill definitely come back next year or two
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^^ Congrats!!! Way to hang in there. That is a tough race mentally and physically.

LOL, the sandbager won again in the 4s. I think he has been a 4 for like 5+ yrs!

I failed miserably today. My goal was to win the 4s or at least 2nd and come in at around 1:27-28 and try to be in the top 15 out of the 250 or so entered. I knocked out a 1:30 only a few weeks ago just training so I felt a mid 1:20s wouldn't be a prob. I ended up cramping about 6 miles in and suffered. I mean really suffered. So bad I was about ready to quit racing after today. I ended up barely doing a 1:37. It was very bad. I am actually pretty embarrased about my time due to this is a local race for me and you always want to do well in the big local races. Terrible way to end the season.

I ended up talking with Neil Shirley today and he thinks my cramping might be associated with a fit issue. He asked my power during my 1:30 times and said that it definitely isn't a fittness issue, but probably the way I might be set up on the bike.

BTW, Neil won today. He is a super nice guy with a nice family. Congrats to him. My buddy I train with not only won the 3s by a large margin his time was good enough to place around 4th over all including the Pro 1-2.
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Sorry about the cramping John, I know how that goes
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