Number-crumpling
01-08-07, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by toshi
Hm Grizzly Tape eh... this stuff? Might have to try it! If it can hold the entire number down securely in a crit it must be darn strong.
Yeah that's the stuff, it works pretty good, I still use one safety pin just to be on the safe side. I also have used it in stage races where you have to re-use the number. I just peal it off and put it on the other jersey.
01-08-07, 07:42 PM
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Have worked as a race offical. It is hard to read crumpled and or flapplng numbers during a close multible rider finish. So please don't abuse the numbers as it helps us avoid making a mistake.
01-08-07, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 'nother
Hey toshi you were there in the mentoring when the other AV guy was saying that, right?
01-08-07, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by toshi
one of the mentors at that gathering said "99.9% of you people need to learn to pin your numbers on right."
01-08-07, 10:30 PM
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i haven't seen riders dq'ed because of crumpled numbers, but i have seen riders lose placings and prizes due to the officials not being able to read the numbers. it's not a good idea to piss off the officials
01-08-07, 11:06 PM
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I almost lost a third place and $65 because the race official couldn't make out my crumpled number. He was nice enough to correct the results, and now I am a non-crumpler.
01-09-07, 01:11 AM
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I believe they fined some guys in Ontario this Summer for crumpling and folding. I was warned in one race this past season in B.C. I won't repeat the offense.
I have a buddy who uses the adhesive spray. I tried it once, but wasn't able to remove the residue from the jersey. Just use a ton of pins, unless you're weight-weenie-ism won't handle it!
I have a buddy who uses the adhesive spray. I tried it once, but wasn't able to remove the residue from the jersey. Just use a ton of pins, unless you're weight-weenie-ism won't handle it!
01-09-07, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 'nother
Ha ha, yeah, I think the aerodynamic gain of a crumpled number is roughly equivalent to that of a shaved leg, perhaps even less . But crumpling does seem to allow you to attach it to your jersey a little better (basically it's just making it more flexible), and that in turn seems to reduce flapping and wind noise quite a bit.
. But crumpling does seem to allow you to attach it to your jersey a little better (basically it's just making it more flexible), and that in turn seems to reduce flapping and wind noise quite a bit.
01-09-07, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DannoXYZ
...each pin goes down into the number, down through the jersey, up through the jersey and up through the number. Two holes per pin through both the number AND jersey simultaneously. Ten holes total with 5 pins (at least one in the middle)...
01-09-07, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by VelodromePhoeni
One of these days, somebody's going to lose out on a nice, fat purse because they got DQ'd for crumpling their numbers. Who's the Fred then?
VP
I would say that almost all cases of not being able to read the number is a crappy pin job, not the crumple.
01-09-07, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DannoXYZ
Numbers can cause much more drag than leg-hair, although crumpling them doesn't help that much to reduce aero-drag. Even a badly-pinned crumpled number will cause significant aero-drag. You have to use the in-and-out pin technique to force the number to stay flush with the jersey. So each pin goes down into the number, down through the jersey, up through the jersey and up through the number. Two holes per pin through both the number AND jersey simultaneously. Ten holes total with 5 pins (at least one in the middle). This will keep the number from lifting away from the jersey and becoming a parachute, crumpled or not.
That's exactly the technique I had used this past weekend, and I had no issues with my number flapping about.
