Why race? Seriously. I'd like to hear your thoughts.
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I'll race this year to have a reason to get better next year.
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I sent this to some guys on my team after a couple weekend training rides getting our butts kicked by the 1/2's.
Why we do what we do.
Racing is fun
Hanging with the guy's before, during and after a race is fun
Coming up with a race plan and seeing it work even when you didn't think it would is fun
Being strong in a race so you can effect the outcome is fun
Making people hurt during a race even if you know you are only working to help a teammate is fun
Sacrificing yourself for the team may not be fun but you can feel good about yourself after the race
Doing things in 4/5 races that people usually only see in 1/2 and pro races is fun.
Working as a team is fun
Your buddy sharing his prize money to buy pizza even though he makes you buy the drinks is fun
Training is not fun. It is the one thing that makes all of the above possible. Getting your but kicked during training by 1's and 2's isn't fun. What it does do is make us stronger so when we race we can have fun and represent our sponsors with pride.
Why we do what we do.
Racing is fun
Hanging with the guy's before, during and after a race is fun
Coming up with a race plan and seeing it work even when you didn't think it would is fun
Being strong in a race so you can effect the outcome is fun
Making people hurt during a race even if you know you are only working to help a teammate is fun
Sacrificing yourself for the team may not be fun but you can feel good about yourself after the race
Doing things in 4/5 races that people usually only see in 1/2 and pro races is fun.
Working as a team is fun
Your buddy sharing his prize money to buy pizza even though he makes you buy the drinks is fun
Training is not fun. It is the one thing that makes all of the above possible. Getting your but kicked during training by 1's and 2's isn't fun. What it does do is make us stronger so when we race we can have fun and represent our sponsors with pride.
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Originally Posted by GuitarWizard
Ehh.....climbing a remote 20,000+ foot mountain is no walk in the park either, particularly when the climb lasts a minimum of 3-4 weeks
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have fun
If you enjoy road biking and worry about training time then do not ruin it by going to the dark side and race unless you enjoy riding with your nose up another guy's butt for miles,spending lots of money on stuff to make you go faster and believe it means something,risk your safety and health again believing it's worth it all to prove what?your the alpha male.Ride for your self train when you can ,use your results as a guide not an obsession,have fun.
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Originally Posted by slvoid
You need to try adventure racing... 72 hours of biking, climbing, swimming, running, kayaking, horse back riding, hiking, on no sleep.
We have twins, I get more sleep at a 24 hour maintain bike race...
Now, back to the OP...
Why race? I dunno, just to see if you're doing it right?
You dont need a reason.
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Originally Posted by pedalhard
If you enjoy road biking and worry about training time then do not ruin it by going to the dark side and race unless you enjoy riding with your nose up another guy's butt for miles,spending lots of money on stuff to make you go faster and believe it means something,risk your safety and health again believing it's worth it all to prove what?your the alpha male.Ride for your self train when you can ,use your results as a guide not an obsession,have fun.
Thats kinda an angry post, what gives?
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Whoa there.
Thats kinda an angry post, what gives?
Thats kinda an angry post, what gives?
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Originally Posted by slvoid
I can spend a month at base camp too.
Besides, an Everest climb usually takes at least 6 weeks. Sometimes you can waste quite a bit of time waiting on a weather window. On McKinley, it's not uncommon to get snowed in at 17,200 feet for a week while waiting to make a summit bid. Even if the weather appears to be clear when you leave 14k feet, if you don't have at least a weeks' worth of food and fuel, you're asking for trouble.
Jon Waterman wrote a pretty good book, "In the Shadow of Denali" - should check it out. He even goes into a little bit of his famous climb when him and 2 other guys climbed McKinley in winter, and faced windchill temps of -148 degrees F.
Here's the book that Art Davidson wrote regarding the winter climb:
https://www.amazon.com/Minus-148-Degr...e=UTF8&s=books
Climbing is good for riding....provided you don't injure/kill yourself . Mountaineers are some of the fittest people going.
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Originally Posted by pedalhard
If you enjoy road biking and worry about training time then do not ruin it by going to the dark side and race unless you enjoy riding with your nose up another guy's butt for miles
Originally Posted by pedalhard
...spending lots of money on stuff to make you go faster and believe it means something
Originally Posted by pedalhard
...risk your safety and health again believing it's worth it all to prove what?your the alpha male.Ride for your self train when you can ,use your results as a guide not an obsession,have fun.
And the alpha male thing seems to happen more among the rec riders. At the end of the day, nobody judges your bike/clothing/anything else in a race--only the results and your riding ability. So in that respect, it's actually a much more "pure" version of cycling.
We all admire your anti-racing crusade, pedalhard. Please stop blaming us for your lack of motivation, courage, desire, or any combination thereof.
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I wanna turn pro and I'm not kidding.
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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak
Looking at some of his other posts, he seems like an angry person in general. Not a good way to live.
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Originally Posted by yonderboy
He's just mad he dropped 5k on a bike and got spanked by some masters twice his age.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
A solid guess... definitely bitter about something.
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Another 400 Watt victim I fear
Impossible for one's psyche to recover from that kind of thrashing...
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Originally Posted by pedalhard
If you enjoy road biking and worry about training time then do not ruin it by going to the dark side and race unless you enjoy riding with your nose up another guy's butt for miles,spending lots of money on stuff to make you go faster and believe it means something,risk your safety and health again believing it's worth it all to prove what?your the alpha male.Ride for your self train when you can ,use your results as a guide not an obsession,have fun.
Originally Posted by pedalhard
I guess it depens on what you like,during the season I do no legs but come winter I'm leg pressing 900lbs 5 sets of 6 and squating 300lbs the same.I get a kick out of watching all the big guys freak when they see the skinny guy working his legs
Dude you can't have it both ways. Either you want to be competitive and measure yourself against others. Which means buying a license, registering and putting yourself and your ego on the line, or you don't.
If the answer is you don't. you don't ahve the privelege of yapping about how you sqaut more than others in the gym. Either your willing to compete and be measured or you're not.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
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Dude you can't have it both ways. Either you want to be competitive and measure yourself against others. Which means buying a license, registering and putting yourself and your ego on the line, or you don't.
If the answer is you don't. you don't ahve the privelege of yapping about how you sqaut more than others in the gym. Either your willing to compete and be measured or you're not.
Dude you can't have it both ways. Either you want to be competitive and measure yourself against others. Which means buying a license, registering and putting yourself and your ego on the line, or you don't.
If the answer is you don't. you don't ahve the privelege of yapping about how you sqaut more than others in the gym. Either your willing to compete and be measured or you're not.
Don't worry about it boys. Bike racing is life and death to those who are talented at it and take it seriously - but at the end of the day it's an amateur sport that we do for FUN. It's difficult, challenging, and not everybody can do it. But it's still a recreational sport if you're not a pro (and even if you are it doesn't tend to pay very well). So take Pedalhard with a grain of salt - AND the sport of amateur bicycle racing.
I love riding and I do enjoy racing even though I'm not very good at it. But it's secondary to my love of cycling. And racing ENHANCES my cycling experience enormously. So do the friendships I have made through the sport. If it didn't do those things, I wouldn't do it. What would be the point?
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^^^^^^
I'd completely agree with your take Patencad. What bugs me is Pedal Hard's inhernet contradiction. You can't denigrate competition, at the same time you proclaim yourself as superior.
Either you take the postion that you want to compete, or that you don't choose to compete. Either one is a valid choice; but you can't say "Competition is stupid, and by the way I'm stronger than you."
I'd completely agree with your take Patencad. What bugs me is Pedal Hard's inhernet contradiction. You can't denigrate competition, at the same time you proclaim yourself as superior.
Either you take the postion that you want to compete, or that you don't choose to compete. Either one is a valid choice; but you can't say "Competition is stupid, and by the way I'm stronger than you."
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I really find it funny how pissed my posts make some people,not a thicked skined bunch are we!I have however found out why, your all AMERICANS dumbest people on the planet, living in the world of dreams,we are the best.
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Originally Posted by pedalhard
I really find it funny how pissed my posts make some people,not a thicked skined bunch are we!I have however found out why, your all AMERICANS dumbest people on the planet, living in the world of dreams,we are the best.
I'll remember to tell the patients I'm operating on that I'm one of the dumbest people on the planet. I think I owe it to them.
So far, the only thing that you've conclusively proven in your posts is that you're too slow to race and don't like Americans. Did I miss anything?
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Originally Posted by pedalhard
I really find it funny how pissed my posts make some people,not a thicked skined bunch are we!I have however found out why, your all AMERICANS dumbest people on the planet, living in the world of dreams,we are the best.
I'm not American, and I think you're an idiot too.
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Originally Posted by pedalhard
I really find it funny how pissed my posts make some people,not a thicked skined bunch are we!I have however found out why, your all AMERICANS dumbest people on the planet, living in the world of dreams,we are the best.
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If you enjoy road biking and worry about training time then do not ruin it by going to the dark side and race unless you enjoy riding with your nose up another guy's butt for miles,spending lots of money on stuff to make you go faster and believe it means something,risk your safety and health again believing it's worth it all to prove what?your the alpha male.Ride for your self train when you can ,use your results as a guide not an obsession,have fun.
Racing can be fun but I think it's more satisfying than anything else. To know that my body is at the limit brings peace to my mind for some reason.
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hm apparently pedalhard is from canada. i thought canadians were suppose to be nice, and i thought they were suppose to have good grammar...