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Old 02-12-07, 09:17 PM
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Cat 5 Gear?

What kind of bikes and gear set-ups can I expect to see in a Cat 5 race?
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Old 02-12-07, 09:19 PM
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The entire spectrum. Usually the nicest bikes are ridden by those who end up OTB(gross over-generalization).
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Old 02-12-07, 09:20 PM
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Many will have a pretty high-end setup. At that level, it doesn't really matter though as long as you're on a road bike that functions and fits well. More aggressive geometry will help in a crit, but other than that, just show up, learn, and have fun
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r3s with lightweight wheels, piloted by guys with with tegaderm bandages covering hairy legs.
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Old 02-12-07, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by botto
r3s with lightweight wheels, piloted by guys with with tegaderm bandages covering hairy legs.
That about sums me up. Except my wheels won't be too light and I'll probably be on a triple.
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You'll find anything from the 20 dollar 30 year old steel bike to the 8000+ dollar carbons.
The 20 dollar bike will win.
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Old 02-12-07, 09:54 PM
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That about sums me up. Except my wheels won't be too light and I'll probably be on a triple.
like i wrote - freds.
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Old 02-12-07, 10:50 PM
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Fuji Team Pro. Shaved legs.
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Old 02-13-07, 12:04 AM
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It's more fun to look at people's bikes at the starting line and guess what they actually do for a living. You can usually tell the lawyers/doctors/businesspeople group from the retail/food service people... usually.
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Old 02-13-07, 12:21 AM
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Last year at a novice race I was following a guy with a carbon bike and power tap.
The first couple of laps one of the fast dudes was helping us as a clinic so I asked him if it was allowed to race novice with that kind of bike, he smirked.
To each is own, you still have to pedal hard.
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Fuji Team Pro. Shaved legs.
did you shave your legs for this one?
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Old 02-13-07, 01:27 AM
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did you shave your legs for this one?
Nope. That's the only thing I already have experience with.
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Originally Posted by slvoid
The 20 dollar bike will win.
I've generally found that the first guy across the finish line will win.

Seems like there's a selective memory thing that happens... Everyone remembers dropping the guy on the Soloist Carbon, but nobody seems to recall the guy on the $50 garage sale Schwinn they dropped.
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Originally Posted by botto
r3s with lightweight wheels, piloted by guys with with tegaderm bandages covering hairy legs.
Funny I never pictured you on an R3
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Old 02-13-07, 06:46 AM
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As much as some like to make fun of the cat 5 on the 5k carbon wonder, don't go into this, or any race with some sort of preconceived notion of who is fast and who is not based on what they ride. I've seen the hairy legged beast the botto describes rip a ride apart, and the guy on the $30.00 steel ride get shelled on the first acceleration. I've also seen the exact opposite happen, that's the beauty of this sport, you really can't judge a book by it's cover.

Velonews is running a servey asking about ages, 30-39 makes up over 26%, 40-49 makes up another 22%. 48% of respondents are between the ages of 30-49. With type of demographic interested in bike racing it's not surprising that the gear is getting better. Guys with jobs are doing a big part of the racing these days, it's not college kids or cat 1 bike shop employee that make up the majority of the ranks anymore. Also even though this sport is still on the fringe it's slowly creeping toward the mainstream.
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Old 02-13-07, 06:49 AM
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Well, I can tell you what you generally WON'T see:

1. Triple chainrings
2. Clips and straps
3. Wheels/tires other than 700x23
4. Hairy legs
5. Downtube shifters

Other than that, it's a grab bag - although if I were to conduct a highly non-scientific statistical poll the modal bike would be something like a 1-2 year old Cannondale with Ultegra and Elites.
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Old 02-13-07, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Well, I can tell you what you generally WON'T see:

1. Triple chainrings
2. Clips and straps
3. Wheels/tires other than 700x23
4. Hairy legs
5. Downtube shifters

Other than that, it's a grab bag - although if I were to conduct a highly non-scientific statistical poll the modal bike would be something like a 1-2 year old Cannondale with Ultegra and Elites.
There was a guy in our last race who had dt shifters. He finished in the top ten both days. On a side note there was a guy on a Cinelli carbon bike with Bora's, Cinelli carbon bars (the integrated model) everything top of the line. I heard him say to another rider how he backed off at the end of the race because he was afraid he'd crash the bike.

I agree with you on the model bike. I would have to say the best bang for the buck race bike would be a CAAD8/9.

The thing to remember about guys with high dollar bikes in the lower cats is,there is a huge difference between need and want. In the same way that none of us really need 90% of the crap we have a high end bike is really no different. I've seen kids criticize the guy on the big dollar bike then see them warming up on a $300.00 trainer while listening to their 60g ipod that cost 350 bucks. Those same kids most likely have a kick but gaming computer at home. There is a lot of hypocrisy when it comes to people with 'stuff'.
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
There is a lot of hypocrisy when it comes to people with 'stuff'.
Don't forget jealousy.

The people I see/hear ridiculing people's expensive bikes at a race never seem to say how they totally would never want a bike like that.

In your example, EDR, I'm guessing it's easier to talk mommy and daddy into a $3000 computer for "homework" than it is a $3000 bike.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
The people I see/hear ridiculing people's expensive bikes at a race never seem to say how they totally would never want a bike like that.
It's pretty crazy that people would say stuff like that out loud. Rampant jealousy.

Go win the race and let your legs and lungs speak for themselves.
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I've heard a lot of comments from college age racers about the equipment that some of my teammates and I ride. When I was in college and I saw some old guy (it's important to note here that when I was 20 a 35 year-0ld was old, now that person is a kid) in a Porsche I didn't criticize him, I told myself I'd have one one day as well. When I became established I not only had one, I had several. As I've focused my cycling more and more toward racing I've changed the equipment to closer represent my focus. I'm on CAAD8 rather than a System6, due to the chances of me crashing and having to replace it out of my pocket. Ironically I'd probably be on some ridiculous carbon bike if I were just focusing on recreational riding.
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Well, I can tell you what you generally WON'T see:

1. Triple chainrings
2. Clips and straps
3. Wheels/tires other than 700x23
4. Hairy legs
5. Downtube shifters
I fail on points 1 and 4. But I will still be trying racing this year. I live for my Fredness...
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Pretty much any decent road bike in the $700 range in good mechanical order is all you'll need. What you'll see is anything from that to bikes that are more expensive than the average TDF racer gets.

Last week, I raced on a Gaint TCR Team Advanced, with Zipp wheels and a Powertap SL. My bike while toward the high end, was far from the most expensive.
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Well, I can tell you what you generally WON'T see:

1. Triple chainrings
2. Clips and straps
3. Wheels/tires other than 700x23
4. Hairy legs
5. Downtube shifters

Other than that, it's a grab bag - although if I were to conduct a highly non-scientific statistical poll the modal bike would be something like a 1-2 year old Cannondale with Ultegra and Elites.
I used to fail 1, now I just fail 4. I honestly don't see the point.
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The benefits of shaved legs will become readily apparent after a serious crash. Road rash with hair sucks. Repeatedly changing bandages with hair sucks. Cleaning out a wound that's full of hair, also sucks.

I've experienced this, and I'm asian. My legs hardly have any hair at all, and it still sucks.
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The benefits of shaved legs will become readily apparent after a serious crash. Road rash with hair sucks. Repeatedly changing bandages with hair sucks. Cleaning out a wound that's full of hair, also sucks.
I understand the logic of shaving but I'm going to keep my triple and hairy legs until I raced a few times. I want to ensure that I like the racing scene.

I'm still trying to envision Snuff shaving his legs while stationed at Bragg. "Back in the day" that act would have gotten you in the SM's office explaining why you are intentionally damaging government property. I could hear SM Poloozi asking..."Son are you some kind of subversive deviant?!"
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