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First TT : tt helmet overdoing it?

Old 03-01-07, 11:02 PM
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First TT : tt helmet overdoing it?

My first time trial is in 10 days.. And its just about my birthday.. should i ask for a tt helmet? Is it really lame to wear a TT helmet in a cat 5 tt.. on a non-tt bike.. although i did just get some clip on bars..
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Old 03-01-07, 11:10 PM
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it couldn't hurt. FWIW, when I wear mine I can feel the air rushing around it, as in if I try to move my head the wind breaking around it tries to force it to stay in place. Its aero, that's for sure. The sound of the air rushing around it is awesome, definitely a moral booster.

The downside is you look like an extra from spaceballs. If you can deal with that, I'd suggest wearing the helmet
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Old 03-01-07, 11:16 PM
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The two most important items (as far as EQUIPMENT) are the Aerobars and the helmet. Go for it.
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Old 03-01-07, 11:42 PM
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Seems a bit much for a first TT. How about a disc wheel?
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Indeed, from what I've read, after aerobars, the helmet will save you the most time.
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Old 03-01-07, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dmotoguy
Is it really lame to wear a TT helmet in a cat 5 tt..
Only if it's really lame to go a little bit faster.
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If its worth it to you to go a tad faster, go for it. However I think there is a point about it being your first TT. You may well decide you don't like to TT.

It's not hard at all to quickly acumulate a bunch of TT specific stuff, that ends up sitting in the garage.
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Old 03-02-07, 08:05 AM
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Seems a bit premature to me (first TT as a CAT5) but if ya got the money then why not. They are definitely cool looking.

I like this one:




This one is nice too:




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Old 03-02-07, 08:22 AM
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Honestly, unless you got game you are better off not. Since it is your first I'd wait a bit but if you've got thick skin go for it. You'll understand after wearing it a while.
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Old 03-02-07, 08:44 AM
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I probably wouldn't for your first, like some mentioned try it and make sure you like them, but it surprised me last year how many cat5's had tt bikes, helmets, and clip on bars. I just rode my regular bike. I may get some clip on's this year though.
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If you get a helmet make sure you get the visor also. A helmet without a visor creates a lot of turbulance and practciclly negates any advantage.
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IIRC, according to the good dr odonnell, using a visor is less aero than not having one. Its mainly just for good visibility.
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I've got a question, the prologue for this weekend's race is a 3k TT on the 8-turn crit course(figure 8). Should I bother with clip on bars or the TT helmet?
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Originally Posted by curiouskid55
If you get a helmet make sure you get the visor also. A helmet without a visor creates a lot of turbulance and practciclly negates any advantage.
As Penguin said, the guys at the MIT wind tunnel said the visor s slower (doesn't make sense to me, but they are the ones with the wind tunnel). Having said that, I have used the LAS with great sucess. My only complaint was that during my last 40k TT, at around minute 45 when I was turning up the heat, it started raining sweat on the inside of the visor...That was annoying.
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Old 03-02-07, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by branman1986
I've got a question, the prologue for this weekend's race is a 3k TT on the 8-turn crit course(figure 8). Should I bother with clip on bars or the TT helmet?
it couldn't hurt for the straightaways, might save a few seconds.
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Originally Posted by DrWJODonnell
My only complaint was that during my last 40k TT, at around minute 45 when I was turning up the heat, it started raining sweat on the inside of the visor...That was annoying.
I had the same issue. Most of the really fast pro TT guys go without a visor, including the world champ.
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Not sure of this has been addressed yet or not, so here goes.

Getting an aero helmet and using it with a road bike may NOT be a good thing. It depends on your usual riding position. To use an aero helmet effectively, you need to be looking forward, not down, not sideways, or you lose the affect. The best bet is to have the end tip of the helmet hitting your back so air flows around and over you. If you assume an upward road bike position, you will negate a lot of the intended affect. If you ride on the hoods with your elbows bent at 90 degrees and face forward (not down), then go for it.

As for the suggestion to get a disk wheel, don't do it unless you can practice with it several times before the race. Same really goes for aero bars, whether clip ons or integrated.
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Originally Posted by branman1986
I've got a question, the prologue for this weekend's race is a 3k TT on the 8-turn crit course(figure 8). Should I bother with clip on bars or the TT helmet?
RE: Bars

yes if you have ridden with clip ons for a while and are comfortable with the transition between clip on and the drops.

no if you are fairly new to the clip on experience

The handling in aero bars is very different than regular road riding and takes a while to get used to (see Rasmussen's performance in the tour a few years ago for great example, where he crashed 3 or 4 times and was all over the road trying to save his podium spot) , with a technical course you would need to transition in and out of the bars to the drops, at speed, quite a bit.
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A couple of my buddies just bought TT helmets and seeing them first hand I've got to say they're not worth the money. They're real flimsy IMO and way over priced.
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flimsy maybe, but they make your profile a lot more slippery.
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Originally Posted by bvfrompc
RE: Bars

yes if you have ridden with clip ons for a while and are comfortable with the transition between clip on and the drops.

no if you are fairly new to the clip on experience

The handling in aero bars is very different than regular road riding and takes a while to get used to (see Rasmussen's performance in the tour a few years ago for great example, where he crashed 3 or 4 times and was all over the road trying to save his podium spot) , with a technical course you would need to transition in and out of the bars to the drops, at speed, quite a bit.
+1 It takes some getting used to for sure. I wobbled all over the place the first time or two I used my TT rig. As for the position, I'm still not entirely used to it yet. However, I figure after 4-6 weeks it will be better hopefully. I've got a TT coming up on the 10th, but I'm going to use my TT rig even though I'm not entirely ready - just to see what happens.
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