What the top Pro's earn
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Originally Posted by derath
The TDF may pull a ton of spectators along the roads every year. And they surely generate some revenue for the local areas they are in. But the cost/revenue is nowhere near a sport that is contained within a stadium.
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Now we're talking real money...
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The primary difference between cycling on TV and the NFL on TV...my wife (and the rest of my family and friends) will watch football. Cycling? Forget it...
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I was shocked by the other list of top 10 sports figures (non-cycling)
Michelle Wie! 17million, turned pro at 16 but has yet to win a tournament! (granted some of her money is through endorsements, hence the reason Tiger is making 90+million a year, but still!)
she is only 16... and hasn't won a tournament!
Michelle Wie! 17million, turned pro at 16 but has yet to win a tournament! (granted some of her money is through endorsements, hence the reason Tiger is making 90+million a year, but still!)
she is only 16... and hasn't won a tournament!
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Originally Posted by classic1
What, Cuba and Japan? That would be about it.
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Originally Posted by domestique
I was shocked by the other list of top 10 sports figures (non-cycling)
Michelle Wie! 17million, turned pro at 16 but has yet to win a tournament! (granted some of her money is through endorsements, hence the reason Tiger is making 90+million a year, but still!)
she is only 16... and hasn't won a tournament!
Michelle Wie! 17million, turned pro at 16 but has yet to win a tournament! (granted some of her money is through endorsements, hence the reason Tiger is making 90+million a year, but still!)
she is only 16... and hasn't won a tournament!
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Nobody wants to address my points...so either they make no sense at all and don't warrant a response - or my argument is water proof.
I work in absolutes
I work in absolutes
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Nobody wants to address my points...so either they make no sense at all and don't warrant a response - or my argument is water proof.
I work in absolutes
I work in absolutes
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
You think?
I don't know - I think there a whole lot of talented people who never get into cycling because it doesn't have the glamor associated with other sports.
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Talented kids are drawn into sports at a very young age, and lets face it, a lot of parents see dollar signs...
I don't know - I think there a whole lot of talented people who never get into cycling because it doesn't have the glamor associated with other sports.
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Talented kids are drawn into sports at a very young age, and lets face it, a lot of parents see dollar signs...
I think more money would work at the "bridge level" between amateur and professional but less so at the top end of salaries. A friend of our family pitched for the Houston Astros and honestly wasn't that good. But he made nearly half a million bucks every year, so all his sacrifices (and my niece who dated him) paid off. When you see very gifted cycling amateurs without college degrees forgo a professional bid because their next contract would either be next-to-nothing as a pro cyclist or $38,000 as a garbage truck driver -- nevermind what kids with college degrees have for alternate opportunities -- then it's hard for that person and their families to choose professional cycling. I'd think it would be especially hard for English and American riders who would make relative bank in the workforce.
Bump that up to even $120,000 for entry level pros and you have a whole different scenario at this critical choice level.
On the high end
Even $1,000,000 is enough for parents of a gifted athlete to realize that a child's earning potential as an athlete could exceed their income as a surgeon or attorney, so $2.2 million or $30 million or any other astronomical sum doesn't mean much more.
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I'll say these cyclists are 'gifted'. At that recent race in Quatar, the breakaway rode 58km in the FIRST HOUR in one of those stages. That's about 36 miles. I'm sure they had a tailwind, but that's just astonishing. The fastest race I ever rode averaged about 28mph for a 35 mile criterium, and that was a combined 2/3/4 Vets field (they threw everybody together for the race). +8mph FASTER than that is almost inconceivable to me. There were some very fast men in that amateur race. But not like the UCI pros. Amazing. And that's why they make those huge $38K salaries (starting salary in the UCI) : ).
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Originally Posted by Uncle Ted
Yeah, Baseball is probably the third most global sport after Soccer and Basketball, it's just not super popular in most of europe.
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I noticed Levi Leipheimer wasn't on the list in the magazine. Does that mean he earns less than $1 mill?
Also, Lemond's salary adjusted for inflation would put him at 3rd today: $2,855,664.93
Also, Lemond's salary adjusted for inflation would put him at 3rd today: $2,855,664.93
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Had Lance been a baseball player, I'd guess he would have been good for $30 million annually in salary.
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Originally Posted by domestique
I was shocked by the other list of top 10 sports figures (non-cycling)
Michelle Wie! 17million, turned pro at 16 but has yet to win a tournament! (granted some of her money is through endorsements, hence the reason Tiger is making 90+million a year, but still!)
she is only 16... and hasn't won a tournament!
Michelle Wie! 17million, turned pro at 16 but has yet to win a tournament! (granted some of her money is through endorsements, hence the reason Tiger is making 90+million a year, but still!)
she is only 16... and hasn't won a tournament!
99% of her money is from Nike since she hasent won anything as a pro and only placed high a few times.
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Originally Posted by botto
incorrect.
Care to enlighten me? What other sport has the same broad based popular appeal in multiple countries on different continents? Golf maybe or tennis maybe, but i must confess i was thinking in terms of team sports.
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Originally Posted by botto
South Korea, Venezuela, Dominican Republic... Hell, it's even a pretty healthy minority sport in the Netherlands.
Friggin Cricket is a healthy minority sport in the Netherlands from what I've heard.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Back to your crock hunting and boomeranging you silly Aussie.
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Originally Posted by Uncle Ted
Care to enlighten me? What other sport has the same broad based popular appeal in multiple countries on different continents? Golf maybe or tennis maybe, but i must confess i was thinking in terms of team sports.
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Originally Posted by classic1
There is no person on this forum sillier than you patentcad, though thank you for writing a post that didn't include the words 'weenie' or 'Six13'.
Wait, my Six13 is far too light to ever flatten ANY weenie. Particularly a Fosters guzzling Australian dude. Which reminds me that new SystemSix head tube actually looks like a can of Fosters. The irony never ends on BF.
If you want silly, do a search for 'Euro' and read his posts. Then come back and tell us what you've learned about True Silliness.
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Or football, American or otherwise. There are lots of VO2 monsters with sky high pain thresholds among strong running backs and the like in American Football and Footballers in general. Why do they never get into cycling?
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Originally Posted by Uncle Ted
Care to enlighten me? What other sport has the same broad based popular appeal in multiple countries on different continents? Golf maybe or tennis maybe, but i must confess i was thinking in terms of team sports.
but if i must, then cricket easily has a broader appeal than baseball.
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Originally Posted by donrhummy
Not quite. No one has ever had that salary in baseball. The most ever was ARod at $25 million/yr (and that's not even accurate as much of the money was deferred and the contract backloaded so the bigger amounts came later). No one's gotten above $22 million (Manny Ramirez signed at almost the same time as ARod) since then, and that only happened once. So I'd say Lance, at his value to Discovery/Postal, would likely have translated to $18-22 million. Still a ridiculous amount.
So all things considered I'd have to raise my 'Lance as an MLB baseball player' salary projection to $50 million per year for ten years + a Gulfstream V private jet as a signing bonus.
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Originally Posted by Recumbomatic
They don't give college scholarships for cycling.
They won their ninth NCCA cycling track championship. They are also killer roadies. And it's a tiny (1,800 students) private school.
For those of you that did the Race 2 Replace, the 18-24 winner is from this school.
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ay, their coach sent me one of their cycling newsletters! Check out the crazy facilities they've got:
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Too bad those guys are in Indianapolis, otherwise I'd get in touch with em.
https://view.exacttarget.com/?ffcb10-...fefd1572776d00
Too bad those guys are in Indianapolis, otherwise I'd get in touch with em.