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Old 04-25-07, 05:19 PM
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Cyclingpeaks, worth it?

I figured I would ask in the racing forum since most of the power users are here.

My question is whether the Cyclingpeaks software is worth it, if you don't train with power. I know it seems to be the "gold standard" for those with powermeters.

Right now I train using HR. I may at some point move to a powermeter, but as of right now I am not even considering racing (maybe in a couple more years).

I have a Garmin edge, and frankly have just had a hard time finding software that does what I want. I figured since Cyclingpeaks supports the edge it might be worth it. Especially considering I might move to a powermeter in the future, I would already be familiar with it.

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I use a powermeter, but I think that cyclingpeaks could be useful even without it. The thing does a great job of tracking workout data be it HR, mileage, time, etc. You can categorize workouts according to type (you pick the labels) and sort them easily to compare similar workouts to each other. You can also indicate whether something is a race or not and then sort all your race data out of the entire calendar if you want.

I'm pretty sure you can download a 7 day free trial.
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I would not bother with it if you do NOT have a powermeter.

WITH a powermeter, it is essential.
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the question would be what it is you want the software to do? Personally I wouldn't think it would be worth it. However most everything I look at in CP is power driven. So there may be more functions available that you could use with just HR data to which I don't even pay attention.

The better answer is buy Cycling Peaks WKO. Get a whiff of the Power ( aka R600 Dura Ace cult) and you'll soon be sporting a Powertap 2.4
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
the question would be what it is you want the software to do? Personally I wouldn't think it would be worth it. However most everything I look at in CP is power driven. So there may be more functions available that you could use with just HR data to which I don't even pay attention.

The better answer is buy Cycling Peaks WKO. Get a whiff of the Power ( aka R600 Dura Ace cult) and you'll soon be sporting a Powertap 2.4
Some key functions that I would like are: Good workout planning (calendars) and a nice ability to compare ride data. So far I have used:

Garmin Training center-Rudimentary calendar and comparison capabilities. Very clunky to use
Motionbased-Largely worthless except for sharing ride data
Sport Tracks- Better calendar. No way to compare rides

I want some software that can do it all, and do it all well.

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Originally Posted by Ghostman
I would not bother with it if you do NOT have a powermeter.

WITH a powermeter, it is essential.
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The key word here is essential. The ability to track your chronic (42 day) and acute (7 day) training "load", and analyze various power outputs at various intervals is essesential when using a PM. Unless you are a spreadsheet wiz with LOTS of time on your hands (to parse the raw data feed from your PM) buying CP when you buy a PM is a no-brainer. It's the best $ 99 I've ever spent on this sport/addiction.

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A powermeter is worthless w/o cyclingpeaks. Its definitely worth the $100 and I'd probably still buy it if it cost even more.
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CyclingPeaks is still a decent log/training program without the power data, but I think the recording and interpretation of power data is where Cyclingpeaks really earns its hundred bucks. If you're planning to buy a power meter then you might as well get it. If not, you're paying for features you won't use.
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Originally Posted by nitropowered
A powermeter is worthless w/o cyclingpeaks. Its definitely worth the $100 and I'd probably still buy it if it cost even more.
Alternatively, I would say that cyclingpeaks is worthless without a powermeter. You can do logging and calendar stuff with programs that are cheaper, or free.
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if you can find a way to convert the garmin to a polar type file, the polar precision performance is MUCH superior to CP for HR training. However, if you are planning on power in the future, go with the CP. Even if you don't have power, you can manually enter a TSS and so still track your fitness.
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^^^^
How do you calculate the TSS for workouts without power?
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
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How do you calculate the TSS for workouts without power?

The biggest thing for me is how to account for my running in all of this. Clearly it
affects the TSS, but since I use HR while running and power isn't in the equation, I have
no idea what to do. Anyone have ideas on this?
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Old 04-26-07, 08:36 AM
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^^^Apparently there IS a running TSS being developed by CyclingPeaks, but it hasn't been released yet.
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