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Tour de WTF? (Moore 3/4 Race)

Old 04-28-07, 02:10 PM
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Tour de WTF? (Moore 3/4 Race)

Well that was interesting...today's Tour de Moore will be one to remember, or preferably - forget.

After a hardish day of racing over some rollers, and spending some time in the wind there was a two man break up the road that had stayed out for the better part of 50 miles. As Steve would say, they just haven't risen to the level of their incompetence yet.

As for the rest of us mortals we had pared the field down from 54 starters into 17 guys vying for the remainder of a 1000 dollar pot paying 15 deep, and the always coveted upgrade points. The final run in to the finish is very sketchy, and today it wasn't in our favor.

I was near the front, with another guy from my club, recneps, and a few other guys I recognized as being strong riders with about 2 miles to go. We took a hairpin right turn, then there were a lot of orange cones going left. Only...we weren't supposed to turn left. There was no course marshall, and they'd briefed us to follow the cones. So we roll through town in one big, giant gaggle-f**k. We eventually cross the line BACKWARDS.

After much waiting, hemming, hawing, racers b**ching and officials tapdancing for the better part of 45 minutes we were told that "um...yeah...you can sprint it out if you want, but we don't know what place you guys are going to get." So we do. I attacked 2k out, got caught with about 600-800 meters to go, and sat up because I wasn't going to get into a field sprint for "unknownth" place

So, the bottom line is - the guys who couldn't hang, and got dropped were shown the way by the wheel truck. They'll get the prize money/upgrade points. It's pretty ridiculous, as the only guys who earned their prize money/placings were the two guys off the front.

So yeah, ghey. Tomorrow is a new day, and there's always next weekend. I rode strong, and felt good, and have learned to love the Enervit "Crack Pack." I was cramping about 15 miles out, and popped it. Within minutes I was a new man

I think I'll go up to Meadowmont tomorrow, just to get some redemption from today's shenanigans and bally-who.

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No motorcycle with the lead group?

That sucks, man. This *****'s hard enough without stuff like that happening. Sorry to hear it, but great report.
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That freaking sucks, man. I guess I'll see you at Meadowmont tomorrow.... I'm looking at a TSB of -35 right now, though, so I'm not expecting to be in the money.

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Originally Posted by DrPete
No motorcycle with the lead group?

That sucks, man. This *****'s hard enough without stuff like that happening. Sorry to hear it, but great report.
Nope. The guy on the moto had dropped back, I think to check on a couple guys who touched wheels and went down. Only when asked later he didn't know how the guys who crashed were...kinda weird.

Meh.
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Originally Posted by zimbo
That freaking sucks, man. I guess I'll see you at Meadowmont tomorrow.... I'm looking at a TSB of -35 right now, though, so I'm not expecting to be in the money.

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Are you going to ride afterwards as well? I had intended on doing a longer day tomorrow, but I need to race. -18 TSB for tomorrow for me. So we'll see what happens
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Are you going to ride afterwards as well? I had intended on doing a longer day tomorrow, but I need to race.
I wish I could ride afterward. I'm really trying to up the mileage for the next six weeks to get ready for Mount Mitchell, but I've got a family function going on after the race and--truth be known--if Meadowmont weren't so close I wouldn't even be racing.

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that sucks - had I been there my mouth would still be running. I can't stand it when organizers fail to stay organized.
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The words of EventServices are ringing in my head - "That's bike racing." Those words are still duking it out with how pissed I'd be if I were in that situation.
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It is too bad that happened but there's a reason for this:

1O3. Rules and Course. It is the rider's responsibility to familiarize himself with the rules of the event and the race course before the start of the race.
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Originally Posted by asgelle
It is too bad that happened but there's a reason for this:

1O3. Rules and Course. It is the rider's responsibility to familiarize himself with the rules of the event and the race course before the start of the race.
"Follow the cones" she said. Follow the cones we did.
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Originally Posted by asgelle
It is too bad that happened but there's a reason for this:

1O3. Rules and Course. It is the rider's responsibility to familiarize himself with the rules of the event and the race course before the start of the race.
While that rule may look good on paper, it's not always feasible for many.
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Old 04-28-07, 07:31 PM
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That restart was horribly painful, 55 miles of racing then, let the legs get cold then do a 25mph run-in covering attacking to eventually sprint. The worst thing was that we were told we were sprinting for 5th(kind of worth fighting it out for) later to find out they really meant 18th.

At least I found out I've got the legs to duke it out with the 3s and 4s.

Anyways good luck tomorrow man, hopefully it goes better than today did.
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Originally Posted by asgelle
It is too bad that happened but there's a reason for this:

1O3. Rules and Course. It is the rider's responsibility to familiarize himself with the rules of the event and the race course before the start of the race.
Honestly it was our fault but still the situation was kinda ****ed.
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It states rather prominently on the race flier to pre-ride the finish...and most people in that pack had done the race before. Frankly, it was the pack's fault.
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Originally Posted by LuxEtVelocitas
It states rather prominently on the race flier to pre-ride the finish...and most people in that pack had done the race before. Frankly, it was the pack's fault.
All three times it happened that day?

Masters.

Womens.

III/IV.

I could see it being the packs fault if it had happened once. Not three times. Frankly, it was the promoters fault.
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Nope. The guy on the moto had dropped back, I think to check on a couple guys who touched wheels and went down. Only when asked later he didn't know how the guys who crashed were...kinda weird.

Meh.
I'm fine. Thanks for wondering.
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Originally Posted by CaseLawZ28
I'm fine. Thanks for wondering.
Glad to hear it man, sucks you crashed so close to the finish. At least you didn't miss much
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Glad to hear it man, sucks you crashed so close to the finish. At least you didn't miss much
No kidding. I was pissed off. And probably would have been pissed off regardless if I didn't wreck after the calamity at the end there.

Did you see the results posted for the Tour de Moore race at Meadowmont? I wondered how they sorted it out and if they were going to post it anywhere.
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Originally Posted by CaseLawZ28
No kidding. I was pissed off. And probably would have been pissed off regardless if I didn't wreck after the calamity at the end there.

Did you see the results posted for the Tour de Moore race at Meadowmont? I wondered how they sorted it out and if they were going to post it anywhere.
They did have the results...but I didn't want to look. I still don't really want to know, as it was essentially a wash except for the 1st and 2nd place guys.

All I can say is that a team mate of mine who was off the back finished "18th"
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Originally Posted by LuxEtVelocitas
It states rather prominently on the race flier to pre-ride the finish...and most people in that pack had done the race before. Frankly, it was the pack's fault.
It takes two to tango. Did you race? Because it was very confusing once entering the town. And quite frankly the course designers are very lucky no one got injured or killed. All it would have taken was 3 cones to close off that road way entrance and better yet 3 cones and a marshal. Once we made that corner the first thing I noticed was cars crossing the intersection up ahead. I knew something was wrong so I sat up as I believe most every one else did. A couple of idiots were actually racing through traffic

Some one vaguely knew the course direction so some of us turned around and headed back towards the turn. We got to the infamous tracks and started racing again. I murdered myself to latch back on with one other rider. We caught the lead group passed them and continued on with about 4. I took that sprint for what would have been 5th place. What they finally did is say that the two off the front got 1 and 2. Then those that followed the official course, i.e. guided by the broom wagon took the next spots then those that crossed the line in the proper direction though cut the course (as my group did) got the next spots, then those that did the re sprint took the final spots. I was relegated to 10th. I took the money and the team bought as much beer as we could to forget about the whole thing, Go Hokies! BTW the two leaders cut the course too following the lead cop car that made the wrong turn so technically they should have been relegated too. Of course they worked there ass off and deserved every bit of it.

Those who were there know who I am talking about when this dude was getting it the race officials face about it. I wanted to kick him in the teeth. The officials were just officiating as best they could, the race was over and thats that.

Now tell me why was it that that break away of two was aloud to go (better yet aloud to stay)? Why was everyone letting VA Tech try to pull them back with no assistance? They were often times within eye contact and as far as I could tell had no team support. Whats up with that? I know they were strong guys but that field was so disorganized and sloppy it was just awful.
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Originally Posted by CaseLawZ28
I'm fine. Thanks for wondering.
That was ugly Case glad to hear you were OK. All I saw was a slide out crash and shoes flying in the air BTW Kudos to your teammate who was right next to you and managed to hold his line and draw everyone else through. I was right behind him thinking I hope you slid out rather then in. Worked out well.
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Originally Posted by jfmckenna
Those who were there know who I am talking about when this dude was getting it the race officials face about it. I wanted to kick him in the teeth. The officials were just officiating as best they could, the race was over and thats that.
Yeah, that got pretty out of hand. People need to calm down...
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Whole thing is really unfortunate. The officials clearly had the right under the rulebook to do what they did. they also could have chosen to neutralize the race and restart it. Not sure if that was an option logistically though.

A lot of people do a lot of volunteer work so we can race, so I try not to second guess them.
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Originally Posted by jfmckenna
Now tell me why was it that that break away of two was aloud to go (better yet aloud to stay)? Why was everyone letting VA Tech try to pull them back with no assistance? They were often times within eye contact and as far as I could tell had no team support. Whats up with that? I know they were strong guys but that field was so disorganized and sloppy it was just awful.
John?

Honestly with no big teams in the field we looked at you guys the bring them back you guys had like 10 riders in the field, yet I saw no real effort to bring the break back.

A lot of guys got to the the front with the intention of bringing the break back but no one wanted to work with them, I point out me and two other Mock Orange riders that tired to start is pace line at the front then after we were done with our pulls no one pulled through.

Snuff was doing tons of work at the front with little help that I saw, if the field had not had a crash and not been led off course, the break would have been brought back between the railroad tracks and the finish the run-in would have simply been too fast, and I actuatly think that the second group from the field did swallow up the break meters from the finish.
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Man, I'm glad I ended up not going down for it. Our (Franklin Street Cycles) women had the same thing happen, as did our guys in the 3s. Bummer. Hopefully next year they'll be more organized. Meadowmont was a lot of fun yesterday, though!
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