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Old 05-19-07, 10:18 AM
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ag2r using clinchers for racing?

I think I saw pro race 2 on their wheels. Can anyone vouch for this?
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Old 05-19-07, 10:36 AM
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Yeah, pretty sure they're using the "special edition" Pro2 Service Course in the fugly turquoise color.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
Yeah, pretty sure they're using the "special edition" Pro2 Service Course in the fugly turquoise color.
HEY i got them in turquoise!
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Old 05-19-07, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by riskus
HEY i got them in turquoise!
Yeah, but they look good on your bike!
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Old 05-19-07, 10:45 AM
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I guess your supposed to ride your sponsors tire even if they dont make one you want.
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Originally Posted by recneps
I guess your supposed to ride your sponsors tire even if they dont make one you want.
what does this mean? Also, ugly bike not ugly tire
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Old 05-19-07, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jrennie
what does this mean? Also, ugly bike not ugly tire

Correct me if I'm wrong but ag2r is the only team in the main peloton that is running clinchers, I'm guessing that they would prefer to be riding tubs.
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Old 05-19-07, 01:59 PM
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Pro tour teams using clinchers, at least in certain applications, is a bit of an emerging trend. The decreased rolling resistence canmake clinchers make sense.

http://www.velonews.com/tour2005/tec...es/8566.0.html
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Old 05-19-07, 02:24 PM
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Holy crap that bike is ugly. I only saw it on the race, it's worse when it's not moving.
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Old 05-19-07, 02:49 PM
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I like how that bike looks.
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Old 05-19-07, 07:00 PM
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ag2r rolls on mainly mich clinchers though there have been tubies sighted here and there (prolly something like a Dugast with a mich casing over it).
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http://www.ag2r-cyclisme.com/images/...2_med_02_Q.jpg
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Old 05-19-07, 08:13 PM
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They have Michelin sponsorship, and Michelin don't make tubs anymore. They are also keen on not just putting tubs with new labels on. Rolling resistance at low pressures won't come into it
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Originally Posted by DrPete
Yeah, pretty sure they're using the "special edition" Pro2 Service Course in the fugly turquoise color.
The limited edition of the PR2s can only be found in that light blue. I think that ugly turquois is the signature colour for Michelin, just like Celeste is signature Bianchi You can tell the difference between the limited edition and the regular ones by the black stripes (or lack thereof) on the centre tread:

Service Course Ltd. Edition:

Regular:
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Old 05-20-07, 03:13 PM
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Pro Grips look like that too. They are the coolest tyres!
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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak
I like how that bike looks.
they're even uglier in person.
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Old 05-20-07, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by acorn_user
They have Michelin sponsorship, and Michelin don't make tubs anymore. They are also keen on not just putting tubs with new labels on. Rolling resistance at low pressures won't come into it

That means nothing. HealthNet has the whole "presented by Maxxis" thing going on and they ride Vittoria Corsa CX tubs....
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Old 05-20-07, 04:02 PM
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"They (Pro Tour teams) are all on tubulars. We know it because either directly (under Vittoria) or indirectly (private label) we supply a lot of them. Since almost all of them (Pro Tour teams) ride on tubulars, they use latex inner tubes. Some tire manufacturers claims that the team use clinchers, but this is a pure marketing move. In fact they put the wheels with the clinchers on the car - but on the bikes used by the riders they have tubulars."

really intersting, how true is this?

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Old 05-20-07, 04:16 PM
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Fred Guesdon won Paris-Roubaix in 1997 on clinchers.

Nothing new.
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Originally Posted by mike9903
"They (Pro Tour teams) are all on tubulars. We know it because either directly (under Vittoria) or indirectly (private label) we supply a lot of them. Since almost all of them (Pro Tour teams) ride on tubulars, they use latex inner tubes. Some tire manufacturers claims that the team use clinchers, but this is a pure marketing move. In fact they put the wheels with the clinchers on the car - but on the bikes used by the riders they have tubulars."

really intersting, how true is this?
That article is 2 years old.
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Old 05-21-07, 06:43 PM
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ag2r rider crashed in the sprint in today's Giro stage. It was a clincher and it looked like it lost its bead and came off the rim-as per the Eurosport crew.
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ag2r rider crashed in the sprint in today's Giro stage. It was a clincher and it looked like it lost its bead and came off the rim-as per the Eurosport crew.
And, that is the reason that clinchers are BAD. Flat, you can't ride them for very long, like you can with tubs. You would never want to flat out on a descent at 50+ MPH with clinchers.
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And, that is the reason that clinchers are BAD. Flat, you can't ride them for very long, like you can with tubs. You would never want to flat out on a descent at 50+ MPH with clinchers.
You cant ride tubs at 50mph downhill either, that point sucked.

I doubt the clincher rolled off the rim in the sprint, it probably rolled off because of the crash.
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My bad. It was Yohann Gene who rides for Bouygues Telecom not ag2r.
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Originally Posted by recneps
You cant ride tubs at 50mph downhill either, that point sucked.

I doubt the clincher rolled off the rim in the sprint, it probably rolled off because of the crash.
you can ride them long enough to slow down. There's a point in one of the Team Disco dvds' where George yells to Johan over the radio that he has a flat. Johan tells him to keep going because they can't help him from where they are.....he was on the cobbles at Paris-Roubaix. Try that on clinchers.
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