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Old 05-29-07, 08:51 AM
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Zoncolan weather for tomorrow

Looks like it will be about 41 degrees F at the top at noon and early morning showers are forecast to dissipate. Not too windy either. Full details here http://www.skiinfo.com/destinations/...ID=EITRAVASCLE
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I think we will see pain here like has never been seen in 40 years.

 
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Well, maybe the Angliru the year Millar threw his bike down before the finish and complained that the course was too hard. What say the Doc?
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Zoncolan! Zoncolan!

This stage is going to be the killer of what's already been one of the best Giros in many years. The dream would be that we'd see the GC guys attacking and putting 5-8 minute gaps on that mountain. Just blow the whole gc to pieces.

To DocRay: I never get tired of seeing that graphic. There's just something so awe inspiring about looking at those numbers (especially the three big 18,20,22%).
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Well, I guess it may not be as tough, but tough enough.

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Originally Posted by RockyMtnMerlin
Well, I guess it may not be as tough, but tough enough.
RM Merlin, is the distance in that elevation profile in km or miles (I'm assuming km)? Either way it's nasty, but more so if it's in miles.
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Originally Posted by celticfrost
RM Merlin, is the distance in that elevation profile in km or miles? Either way it's nasty, but more so if it's in miles.
km. By the way, Simoni won this stage in the Vuelta in 2000.
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Originally Posted by RockyMtnMerlin
km. By the way, Simoni won this stage in the Vuelta in 2000.
He also won on the Zoncolan the last time. These steep climbs seem to suit him.
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Originally Posted by GGDub
He also won on the Zoncolan the last time. These steep climbs seem to suit him.
the last time up zoncolan was via another road, which was up the "easier" side.

2003 was via Sutrio, averaging 8.9% for 13.5 km



where as tomorrow's, as we all know by now is via Ovaro, averaging 11.5% for 10.5 km.

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Originally Posted by RockyMtnMerlin
Well, maybe the Angliru the year Millar threw his bike down before the finish and complained that the course was too hard. What say the Doc?
I think this is the first clean Giro, and it's evident from the number of riders almost collapsing and the close times at lesser climbs that the organizers have gone too far.
To put this in perspective: few cars can do this hill above second gear, if at all, and the finish is literally a paved ski slope.

Also remember, it's cold and rainy up there, they are above the dolomite snow line.
I think it's going to be a disaster. I doubt any of us could make that climb, at any speed, but this is after 120km of racing and three earlier mountains. nuts.



Zoncolan is after Monte Croce di Comelico , Sappada and Tualis.
I have no idea who will make this climb, or who will win, but there is only 9 minutes covering the top ten in the GC as of today -this will all be blown apart tomorrow.
My fear is that Mazzoleni will grab it, but this guy has never ridden a day in a saddle clean in his career.

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My money is on the stage winner ridding up it switchback-style.
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Road is too narrow for that. I'm betting a triple crank and a lot of extra terrestrial activity.

"The Zoncolan is harder than the other climbs of the Giro. I'll put on a 34x29," said Di Luca.

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Originally Posted by DocRay
I think this is the first clean Giro....

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My fear is that Mazzoleni will grab it, but this guy has never ridden a day in a saddle clean in his career.
Contradicting yourself?
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Originally Posted by DocRay
I think this is the first clean Giro, and it's evident from the number of riders almost collapsing and the close times at lesser climbs that the organizers have gone too far.
To put this in perspective: few cars can do this hill above second gear, if at all, and the finish is literally a paved ski slope.

Also remember, it's cold and rainy up there, they are above the dolomite snow line.
I think it's going to be a disaster.
I doubt any of us could make that climb, at any speed, but this is after 120km of racing and three earlier mountains. nuts.

[IMG]http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/giro07/graphics/T17_alt.gif[ /IMG]

Zoncolan is after Monte Croce di Comelico , Sappada and Tualis.
I have no idea who will make this climb, or who will win, but there is only 9 minutes covering the top ten in the GC as of today -this will all be blown apart tomorrow.
My fear is that Mazzoleni will grab it, but this guy has never ridden a day in a saddle clean in his career.
correct.
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Contradicting yourself?
Maybe, the guy is sleazeball, and very closely connected to Basso. He's certainly doing better this year than in the past, but I suspect for the wrong reasons.
 
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Maybe, the guy is sleazeball, and very closely connected to Basso. He's certainly doing better this year than in the past, but I suspect for the wrong reasons.
...and what about Di Luca? Where'd he find the legs to zoom up the last climb on stage 15?

I hope he bonks. I often root for the underdog - especially when the favorite has a goofy nickname and and looks like he was made for Hollywood. I'd like to see Simoni roast him tomorrow.
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Maybe, the guy is sleazeball, and very closely connected to Basso. He's certainly doing better this year than in the past, but I suspect for the wrong reasons.
when he's 'having relations' with his SO, then he's directly connected to basso.

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...and what about Di Luca? Where'd he find the legs to zoom up the last climb on stage 15?

I hope he bonks. I often root for the underdog - especially when the favorite has a goofy nickname and and looks like he was made for Hollywood. I'd like to see Simoni roast him tomorrow.

The cocaine-came-from-candy-my-auntie-gave-me? Simoni? That's like the top three dumbest excuses for a convicted doper.
I LOVE watching him get dropped and whine about it after, even if it's by dopers.
 
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Doc you are a hard man!
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Doc you are hardly a man!

I'm going to go find this climb this summer and give it a try.
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Originally Posted by DocRay
The cocaine-came-from-candy-my-auntie-gave-me? Simoni? That's like the top three dumbest excuses for a convicted doper.
I LOVE watching him get dropped and whine about it after, even if it's by dopers.
Its followed closely by "the french press is just out to get me, Activogen is not a banned substance, so what if its just like EPO?"
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It will forsure be a great day to watch....I can't wait!!!
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The cocaine-came-from-candy-my-auntie-gave-me? Simoni? That's like the top three dumbest excuses for a convicted doper.
I LOVE watching him get dropped and whine about it after, even if it's by dopers.
I'm not picky. I'd like to see DiLuca lose the maglia rosa tomorrow. Simoni, Schleck, Rico, Sella, Para, Savoldelli, Brutt, Olson... I really don't care.
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I would love to see Mazzoleni do well....
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Who uses coke as a PED anyway?
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