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Old 05-30-07, 08:06 AM
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OK, I'll confess my ignorance...

What does a "Figure 8 style" downtown crit course look like? I've not heard the description before, and the race flyer doesn't have a map...

This is the Jason Gundel Wilmington Classic in Wilmington, DE if that helps...

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I hope it doesn't mean what I think it means.
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I hope it doesn't mean what I think it means.
Yeah, no kidding.
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There could be an overpass/tunnel. I've been on a course like that.
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Delaware might be the only place in America flatter than SE Michigan. Tunnels are unlikely.
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probably a shared intersection with no crossing
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yeah, if you're going clockwise it's right, right, right, left, right, right, right, left & repeat

the middle intersection is probably a really big one and it will be blocked off diagonally, or it could be a roundabout.
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Hopefully there is an overpass or maybe the two ends of the "8" just get really close but don't pinch off. If it were a true figure 8, you would be obligated by that oath you doctor dudes take to stick around to clean up after the carnage.
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There is one on the NRC calendar...I think it is that night race too down in the SE...Richmond maybe? Anyway the once I have seen isn't a true figure eight but darn near it. If you have a wide enough road you could set up barriers diagnally across an intersection so that 2 of the legs run right at each other into this intersection and then the cross would both run away from each other...or make the turn a block earlier so the center of the 8 never really comes together.

Ok I found it Rochester...not Richmond...and one side of the course is longer but you ge tthe picture of what I am talking about here:
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This is a possible answer...

http://www.tulsatough.com/images/Friday_Crit_web.jpg

It actually does not work out bad....
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The other common "figure 8" type course is one that goes both ways on a long straight with a loop or square around a block at each end that sends you back onto the straight.
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Originally Posted by Grasschopper
There is one on the NRC calendar...I think it is that night race too down in the SE...Richmond maybe? Anyway the once I have seen isn't a true figure eight but darn near it. If you have a wide enough road you could set up barriers diagnally across an intersection so that 2 of the legs run right at each other into this intersection and then the cross would both run away from each other...or make the turn a block earlier so the center of the 8 never really comes together.

Ok I found it Rochester...not Richmond...and one side of the course is longer but you ge tthe picture of what I am talking about here:
ha-ha. The Start/Finish line is exactly where I almost got run off the bridge by a bus in 1980.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
Yeah, no kidding.
No! They designed the figure 8 course because the race director wants to send more
customers to your ER.
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Every year at the velocity tour there is the promise of a real figure eight race on the grass in the infield of the track. So far it hasn't happened (due to time constraints mostly).

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Originally Posted by dutret
probably a shared intersection with no crossing
Bingo. Seen it a lot.
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Originally Posted by ElJamoquio
Delaware might be the only place in America flatter than SE Michigan. Tunnels are unlikely.
Oddly enough, the part of DE that Wilmington is in has some hills. Downtown Wilmington is pretty hilly.
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I think they use "Figure 8" as a descriptor in place of the previous term, "pinched turd".
 
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Oddly enough, the part of DE that Wilmington is in has some hills. Downtown Wilmington is pretty hilly.
Depends on your references, I guess. Never spent too much time in Wilmington, but I will admit that it's in the hilliest part of Delaware.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
What does a "Figure 8 style" downtown crit course look like? I've not heard the description before, and the race flyer doesn't have a map...

This is the Jason Gundel Wilmington Classic in Wilmington, DE if that helps...

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As the map shows, they actually don't criss-cross in the middle. That's how the Fisherman's Wharf crit was done back when the Coors Classic was held in the '80s. Sitting in the middle of the figure-8, you get to see almost the entire race!

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