I mean, I hate to sound accusatory, but...
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Originally Posted by Dubbayoo
Yes, but the Cat 3 men want to become 1's so the prize money will cover the drug costs. Women have no hope of doing that.
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06-19-07, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPete
Tammy Thomas, anyone?
06-19-07, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Talewinds
As a fellow climber, I would have to say "INCORRECT."
Originally Posted by DrPete
I wasn't trying to encourage any misogynistic comments. She's been absolutely crushing the entire peloton for the past month, and her physique is quite unlike that of most of her competitors. Unfortunately, here in the real world, this often leads to some questions as to whether said physique is "enhanced." If this were a man looking like that in the pro peloton, I'm sure you'd be more than happy to add your comments about how he didn't look like a typical cyclist.
But thanks anyway for the oh-so-incorrect assumptions. The tea cup line was particularly funny.
Obviously I don't have a tape measurer so I can't say anything and I think low body fat always makes interpretation dicey.
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Yeah, some of those short women can really look drugged to the hilt, yet be completely natural. You should see my gymnast-turned-climber friend. Wow. Gorgeous with pipes and all of 4 ft 10 inches. She's asked me if cycling can possibly reduce her overall musculature. After looking at Doc Pete's original post...uh, sorry girl, possibly not.
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There is a wide range of naturally occurring testosterone in men, just as in women. My inclination is just to believe she's been "blessed" with a large supply of the man juice. The reason I tend to believe that is I spent many many years as a gym rat and there was just as much variety in body type and musculature in women as in men; and ours was a clean gym.
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One might suggest that with the time it would take someone to develop upper body like the person in the photo there wouldn't be enough time left in the day to get in the mileage needed to be a pro cyclist. Unless they don't sleep.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
I'm no expert, but there's something very different about his physique compared to the vast, vast majority of other pro women cyclists.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
Yeah, but I'm not an endocrinologist or a doping expert...
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I don't think she's a man. She's a powerful woman and probably a bit of a wildcat. Rowr!
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Originally Posted by Nickel
Why is it not correct?
There were no assumptions, I was just curious about the tone. I don't care about what people choose to not exercise but I was wondering why people think it's odd about a woman or man having muscles. I see the doping point but I just figured most cyclists neglect the arms (to save weight) and she decided to incorporate a workout or two...or several. Obviously I don't have a tape measurer so I can't say anything and I think low body fat always makes interpretation dicey.
There were no assumptions, I was just curious about the tone. I don't care about what people choose to not exercise but I was wondering why people think it's odd about a woman or man having muscles. I see the doping point but I just figured most cyclists neglect the arms (to save weight) and she decided to incorporate a workout or two...or several.
Obviously I don't have a tape measurer so I can't say anything and I think low body fat always makes interpretation dicey.
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Originally Posted by Dead Extra #2
For me it is for the same reason I find it odd when I see a man with breasts.
But there are websites that cater to both ...
I think.
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Originally Posted by Dead Extra #2
For me it is for the same reason I find it odd when I see a man with breasts.
I know a lot of elite women cyclists and there are is just as much body type variation as in men.
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Originally Posted by Dead Extra #2
For me it is for the same reason I find it odd when I see a man with breasts.
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Originally Posted by voltman
Seriously. Female athletes suck, no?
06-20-07, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Dead Extra #2
What the hell are you talking about? I was responding to a post about why people find it odd when they see a muscular woman.
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she's fairly muscular but so what? some women are naturally stockier. anyone can develop big muscles with hard enough targeted training. if you want to see her racing and winning there is video from criterium here
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Do you have brain damage?
I never used the word abhorrent, or EVER implied there was anything wrong with muscular women. You just don't see it nearly as often.
I'll change my wording for those of you sitting in Mrs. Krebopple's 6th grade class.
"For me it is for the same reason I find it odd when I see a man IN A DRESS".
Now excuse me please, I have to go opress some women and discourage them from becomming athletes.
I never used the word abhorrent, or EVER implied there was anything wrong with muscular women. You just don't see it nearly as often.
I'll change my wording for those of you sitting in Mrs. Krebopple's 6th grade class.
"For me it is for the same reason I find it odd when I see a man IN A DRESS".
Now excuse me please, I have to go opress some women and discourage them from becomming athletes.
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Originally Posted by bitingduck
There are quite a lot of women who are capable of developing muscles-- it's just that it's culturally very discouraged. I have a friend who's an ex-gymnast turned track cyclist turned speed skater and occasional rock climber. She's a mesomorph and totally ripped, with a serious case of speedskater's ass.
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Originally Posted by Dead Extra #2
Do you have brain damage?
I never used the word abhorrent, or EVER implied there was anything wrong with muscular women. You just don't see it nearly as often.
I'll change my wording for those of you sitting in Mrs. Krebopple's 6th grade class.
"For me it is for the same reason I find it odd when I see a man IN A DRESS".
Now excuse me please, I have to go opress some women and discourage them from becomming athletes.
I never used the word abhorrent, or EVER implied there was anything wrong with muscular women. You just don't see it nearly as often.
I'll change my wording for those of you sitting in Mrs. Krebopple's 6th grade class.
"For me it is for the same reason I find it odd when I see a man IN A DRESS".
Now excuse me please, I have to go opress some women and discourage them from becomming athletes.
Of course, you're not implying there's anything wrong with a man IN A DRESS either.
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Originally Posted by Dubbayoo
I wore a dress on Day 5 of AIDS/Lifecycle. I looked damn good too!
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Originally Posted by botto
heaven forbid some of us judge someone by the way they look.
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Originally Posted by voltman
You make everything look good!
ZING!
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Originally Posted by Dead Extra #2
Do you have brain damage?
I never used the word abhorrent, or EVER implied there was anything wrong with muscular women. You just don't see it nearly as often.
I'll change my wording for those of you sitting in Mrs. Krebopple's 6th grade class.
"For me it is for the same reason I find it odd when I see a man IN A DRESS".
Now excuse me please, I have to go opress some women and discourage them from becomming athletes.
I never used the word abhorrent, or EVER implied there was anything wrong with muscular women. You just don't see it nearly as often.
I'll change my wording for those of you sitting in Mrs. Krebopple's 6th grade class.
"For me it is for the same reason I find it odd when I see a man IN A DRESS".
Now excuse me please, I have to go opress some women and discourage them from becomming athletes.
Last edited by botto; 06-21-07 at 01:39 AM.