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Dubbayoo 07-11-07 05:39 PM

Matthias Kessler positive
 

Matthias Kessler's B-sample has also tested positive for testosterone, with an equally "exorbitantly high value" as the A-sample, according to the Sueedeutsche Zeitung, leading the newspaper to say that he had "obviously been caught in flagranti."

Kessler, who has denied doping, also gave an explanation for the positive tests. He told his attorney, Michael Lehner, that shortly before the Fleche Wallone, when he was tested positive, he swallowed the contents of four packages "with Chinese writing on them." He had received the packages from his alternative health practitioner, and assumed they were food supplements.

The German rider tested positive on April 24, and the test showed a testosterone value of 85:1, while a normal value is 4:1. Professor Wilhelm Schaenzer, leader of the Biochemistry Institute at the Sports School in Cologne, Germany, said that a natural value of over 15 to 20 is "not possible." His is currently suspended by his Astana team.
WTF? 85:1? Normal would actually be 1:1. If 15-20 were naturally possible Floyd would be off the hook.

DiSrUpToR 07-11-07 05:41 PM

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rog 07-11-07 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Dubbayoo
WTF? 85:1? Normal would actually be 1:1. If 15-20 were naturally possible Floyd would be off the hook.


And wow, here's a suprise...the German media has an issue with the testing procedures being conducted at the Tour:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...ul07/jul12news

German TV criticizes TdF doping controls
Tour de France peloton
Photo : Sirotti (Click for larger image)

The German television channel ZDF claimed to have uncovered UCI violations of the WADA's doping control regulations. The Germans claimed that many riders who were selected for controls after stages went to the controls alone and with a significant time delay after the end of the stage.

The WADA requires that the athletes be escorted from the moment they are notified that they are to be tested.

Ullrich Hass, a sports law expert who is also a judge at the international Court of Appeals for Sport, told the ZDF that without an official escort, riders would have the chance for manipulation before giving a urine sample. The UCI did not have a comment on the situation.

Trevor98 07-11-07 06:10 PM

100:1 T:E ratio was not uncommon before real testing started. However, Kessler is a drooling moron if he was taking testosterone and not keeping his epitosterone in check. A 85:1 T:E ratio is readily avoidable by also taking epitosterone. This is something that is routinely tested for, risking a bust so easily avoidable would be truly moronic.


Originally Posted by rog
And wow, here's a suprise...the German media has an issue with the testing procedures being conducted at the Tour.

The test has been done, read the original post- these samples were from April and the testing takes time.

Again, something is extremely wrong here. Either Kessler is a moron or the testing is flawed- I'm willing to entertain either assertion. However, someone this stupid shouldn't have the mental capacity to walk let alone ride a bike in a group.

cmh 07-11-07 06:16 PM

According to cyclingnews.com Kessler claims it was some packets with chinese writing on it that his naturopath gave him. He didn't know it was testosterone. Lame.

classic1 07-11-07 06:48 PM

Kessler before massive testosterone abuse
http://images.usatoday.com/sports/_p...04/kessler.jpg


...and after
http://cashcampus.com/ftt/wp-content/images/gorilla.jpg

shakeNbake 07-11-07 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by cmh
According to cyclingnews.com Kessler claims it was some packets with chinese writing on it that his naturopath gave him. He didn't know it was testosterone. Lame.

srsly?

HigherGround 07-11-07 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by cmh
According to cyclingnews.com Kessler claims it was some packets with chinese writing on it that his naturopath gave him. He didn't know it was testosterone. Lame.

1) If that's true, then Kessler is pretty lame for ingesting the contents without looking in to the ingredients further.

2) If it's a bogus cover story, then it ranks right up there with VDB's, "Those drugs are for my dog" story.

kpfeif 07-11-07 11:31 PM

Is VDB a reference to Transformers?

shakeNbake 07-11-07 11:39 PM


Originally Posted by kpfeif
Is VDB a reference to Transformers?

Vandenbroucke

botto 07-12-07 02:07 AM

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3...odopingig4.jpg

cmh 07-12-07 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by shakeNbake
srsly?

Here is the link: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...ul07/jul12news

rog 07-12-07 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by Trevor98
The test has been done, read the original post- these samples were from April and the testing takes time.

Read my post - I wasn't suggesting the two were related.

ggg300 07-12-07 04:36 PM


mother of god.....lol

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p.../crazy-dog.jpg

DocRay 07-13-07 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by shakeNbake
srsly?

dude, 90% of the guys on this forum believe Landis's BS, why not this.

I'm sure professional athletes just randomly ingest packets of stuff they can't read.

dutret 07-13-07 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by DocRay
dude, 90% of the guys on this forum believe Landis's BS, why not this.

I'm sure professional athletes just randomly ingest packets of stuff they can't read.


It's substantially more believable then any of the crap landis spewed. Doesn't make him any less guilty though.

Moochers_Dad 07-13-07 09:10 AM

I saw that packet of stuff he ingested with the Chinese writing. It was in the hotel room he stayed in and it also had some English writing on it.

It was called "TOOTHPASTE"

Super Guanche 07-13-07 10:00 AM

Now he knows to never take sweets from strangers.

Dubbayoo 07-13-07 10:27 AM

good thing a skull and crossbones looks the same in any language

rog 07-14-07 05:50 AM

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...l07/jul14news2


Astana fires Kessler after positive B-sample

Team Astana has fired Matthias Kessler following the positive results of his B-sample, the team announced Friday. Swiss Cycling, the national federation responsible for Kessler, had earlier in the day officially announced the results of the B-sample.

"The B-sample confirms the A-sample," said Lorenz Schlaefli, the director of Swiss Cycling. Kessler is a German citizen who lives in Switzerland and therefore rides under a Swiss license.

It was announced two weeks ago that Kessler had tested positive for testosterone in a test before the Fleche Wallonne. He has always maintained his innocence.

HigherGround 07-14-07 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by Moochers_Dad
I saw that packet of stuff he ingested with the Chinese writing. It was in the hotel room he stayed in and it also had some English writing on it.

It was called "TOOTHPASTE"

That's some brilliant marketing department. Imagine a toothpaste that helps fight cavities, prevents plaque build up, gives you minty fresh breath, and increases your testosterone level to 85 times the natural level! It's Aqua Fresh Pecs!

TallRider 07-16-07 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by kpfeif

Originally Posted by HigherGround

Originally Posted by cmh
According to cyclingnews.com Kessler claims it was some packets with chinese writing on it that his naturopath gave him. He didn't know it was testosterone. Lame.

2) If it's a bogus cover story, then it ranks right up there with VDB's, "Those drugs are for my dog" story.

Is VDB a reference to Transformers?

I was thinking exactly the same thing...

DC Bruz 07-16-07 06:00 PM

I can't believe I was supporting him at last years Tour. His near miss then stage win really had be going. Now I'm just pissed!

Trevor98 07-16-07 07:30 PM

So, is he a bigger idiot for taking a questionable substance or for believing we'd believe this lame story?

Az B 07-16-07 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by Super Guanche
Now he knows to never take sweets from strangers.

But strangers always have the very best candy!

Az


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