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Old 07-16-03, 05:54 PM
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Tiagra is the entry-level gruppo in the Shimano STI series. It's a cut above Sora (which doesn't allow shifting from the drops), and just below the 105 gruppo, as far as quality level is concerned. The Shimano STI series in ascending order of price and quality: Tiagra, 105, Ultegra, Dura Ace.
Tiagra is a legitimate racing component gruppo for the beginner. It essentially operates the same as D/A, with a weight penalty and lots of steel and plastic instead of titanium. I've heard some negative comments about tiagra brake's stopping power...might want to upgrade your brakes to 105.
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Old 07-16-03, 06:13 PM
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Tiagra, 105, Ultegra, Dura Ace.
I have a correction, i had the Ultegra mixed up with the Tiagra. The Tiagra was outfitted on a Giant ocr2 (i think thats the name) of course the Klein q-carbon wouldn't have tiagra for the price that its at. The klein had the ultegra componets.
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Old 07-17-03, 06:47 AM
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heh, I had an OCR once...
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Old 07-17-03, 07:03 AM
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Old 07-17-03, 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by FOG
Don't forget to get appropriate gears. Getting gears, such as a 53/42 front and 11/23 rear may make you look like Lance, but unless you can pedal like him, get something more realistic, at leat 52/39 with a 12/27 in back, or better yet, get a triple.
Dude! why recommend a triple??? Doesn't sound as if Klaver here plans to throw 50lbs worth of gear on his bike to go camping.
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Old 07-17-03, 07:38 PM
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You know, I was told today that I should stick to the Ultegra rather than the DA because i will only notice the difference between the two if i were to ride 10k a year and that DA will make the bike prettier...
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Old 07-19-03, 04:18 PM
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You get what you pay for when it comes to bikes.
My first MTB was $1250 on sale-year end close out. I knew I would like MTB at that point and decided to spend the money once. That was 5 years ago and the bike has held up to severe thrashings. I have only had to replace the rear wheel. The XT/XTR performed.
When it came time to buy a road bike, I decided to not go all out on the first bike and picked up a Zurich at 23% off. Ultegra is great stuff and will last many years. I really like the Z.
If I'm still riding like I am in a year or two and getting better I plan on getting a custom steel bike with Dura Ace and what ever else is strong/light and performing well.
What will I do with the Zurich? Don't know. Maybe keep it as a beater/vacation bike or give it to my brother...
Great bikes can be had for $2500.
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Old 07-19-03, 05:43 PM
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Klaver,
As a Cat. III who has won races at each level up till now (collegiate, 5, 4, and 3), and who regularly races and trains 10,000+ miles a year, please consider my advice carefully.

1) The most important thing is bike fit.
Any bike shop worth its salt should know how to fit a rider properly.
This entails more than just standing over the bike to see if you have clearance. There are a number of measurements you need to take. Check out Wrench Science, they have a free bike fit calculator at their site.
You should be able to breeze through it in 15 minutes with a friend and a yard stick.

2) Ultegra is just as good as Dura-Ace, just not as light.
At 16, the weight really shouldn't be an issue for you.
Its only the fattie masters that need titanium brake cables and carbon fiber chains With the money you save, buy a set of lightweight, race-only wheels. Or if the bike comes with a set of light wheels, buy a set of heavier, cheaper training wheels and save the others for races.

3) Learn how to maintain your bike. This entails more than just keeping the tires pumped up and the chain lubed. Overhaul the bearings (hubs, headset, bottom bracket) at regular, pre-defined intervals. Learn how to true wheels and keep yours true.

4) If you don't like fixing flats, get a pair of heavy-duty, puncture resistant tires for your training wheels. I double up and put a tire liner in mine. This has the added benefit of making it feel like you're flying when you finally put your race wheels back on

That's about it.
For what its worth, I've been riding a 2000 model alluminum Fuji Team with Ultegra components for the past 3 years (3 x 10,000+ miles/year == 30,000+ miles). Its still going strong with no need to be replaced. It could use a good paint job, though That's in the works.

If you have any more questions feel free to contact me at:

bspeerNOSPAM@yahoo.com.

and remember to remove the NOSPAM part to the address.

Good luck,
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Old 07-20-03, 06:47 AM
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Originally posted by Trouble
You get what you pay for when it comes to bikes.
My first MTB was $1250 on sale-year end close out. I knew I would like MTB at that point and decided to spend the money once. That was 5 years ago and the bike has held up to severe thrashings. I have only had to replace the rear wheel. The XT/XTR performed.
When it came time to buy a road bike, I decided to not go all out on the first bike and picked up a Zurich at 23% off. Ultegra is great stuff and will last many years. I really like the Z.
If I'm still riding like I am in a year or two and getting better I plan on getting a custom steel bike with Dura Ace and what ever else is strong/light and performing well.
What will I do with the Zurich? Don't know. Maybe keep it as a beater/vacation bike or give it to my brother...
Great bikes can be had for $2500.
Great bikes can be had for half of that.
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Old 07-20-03, 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by shokhead
Great bikes can be had for half of that.
I was going to say the same thing. Great bikes can be had for $1000.
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Old 07-20-03, 01:51 PM
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Klein. My next road bike is going to be the Q-pro carbon-$$$$.
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