"The 33"-Road Bike Racing We set this forum up for our members to discuss their experiences in either pro or amateur racing, whether they are the big races, or even the small backyard races. Don't forget to update all the members with your own race results.

Chicane in race course?

Old 07-16-07, 01:41 PM
  #1  
isuffer
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 196
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Chicane in race course?

Saw this in a course description.

"Course is a flat 4 corner 9/10 mile rectangle loop in Downtown Poughkeepsie. NO CHICANE ANYMORE LIKE IN YEARS PAST!!!!!"

What does chicane mean in reference to a race course?
isuffer is offline  
Old 07-16-07, 01:45 PM
  #2  
botto 
.
 
botto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 40,368
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
chicane, as in s turn/corner.
botto is offline  
Old 07-16-07, 02:25 PM
  #3  
waterrockets 
Making a kilometer blurry
 
waterrockets's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Austin (near TX)
Posts: 26,130

Bikes: rkwaki's porn collection

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Austin's Thursday Night crit chicane (lower left):

waterrockets is offline  
Old 07-16-07, 02:28 PM
  #4  
damocles1
The mods changed this...
 
damocles1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,346
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
What is that? A Kart track?
damocles1 is offline  
Old 07-16-07, 02:31 PM
  #5  
timmhaan
more ape than man
 
timmhaan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: nyc
Posts: 8,094
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by damocles1
What is that? A Kart track?
i don't know, but that looks like an awesome place to race.
timmhaan is offline  
Old 07-16-07, 02:43 PM
  #6  
waterrockets 
Making a kilometer blurry
 
waterrockets's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Austin (near TX)
Posts: 26,130

Bikes: rkwaki's porn collection

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'm not sure what class of cars race there, but there's a torn-down car near the registration tent that's smaller than a road car, but bigger than a go-cart. Yep, it's an awesome place to race. There is one big dip on the course, but it doesn't cause too much trouble (I'll bet it sucks in a car though). Just a sink-hole under the track.

It's nice when people go flying off the course that they don't have to worry about any impact hazards other than the ground.

Here's the live link so you can pan around and see the whole course (just drag). Click the compas thing to orbit the current center point:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...1457&encType=1
waterrockets is offline  
Old 07-16-07, 03:11 PM
  #7  
isuffer
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 196
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks for the info.
isuffer is offline  
Old 07-16-07, 03:11 PM
  #8  
Homebrew01
Super Moderator
 
Homebrew01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Ffld Cnty Connecticut
Posts: 20,967

Bikes: Old Steelies I made, Old Cannondales

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 759 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by isuffer
Saw this in a course description.

"Course is a flat 4 corner 9/10 mile rectangle loop in Downtown Poughkeepsie. NO CHICANE ANYMORE LIKE IN YEARS PAST!!!!!"

What does chicane mean in reference to a race course?
I'm thinking of going to that race. I haven't been there before, but I bet removing the chicane was a good idea !!
Homebrew01 is offline  
Old 07-16-07, 04:43 PM
  #9  
urbanknight
In beaurocratic limbo
 
urbanknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 22,456

Bikes: Specialized Allez, K2 Razorback

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
My understanding from auto racing is that they use the term chicane to refer to any turn that leads directly into a turn in the opposite direction (see Botto's "S turn" comment). They use the term chicane because it means "trick" or "deception" since you think you're done with the turn only to find the next one already upon you.
__________________
"Well, I guess you can cut the arts as much as you want... Sooner or later, these kids aren't going to have anything to read or write about." (Richard Dreyfus as Glenn Holland)
urbanknight is offline  
Old 07-18-07, 03:34 PM
  #10  
isuffer
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 196
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
I'm thinking of going to that race. I haven't been there before, but I bet removing the chicane was a good idea !!
I've been told it's a fast one. I might be there too.
isuffer is offline  
Old 07-18-07, 04:12 PM
  #11  
tfro
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 323
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by waterrockets View Post
I'm not sure what class of cars race there, but there's a torn-down car near the registration tent that's smaller than a road car, but bigger than a go-cart. Yep, it's an awesome place to race. There is one big dip on the course, but it doesn't cause too much trouble (I'll bet it sucks in a car though). Just a sink-hole under the track.

It's nice when people go flying off the course that they don't have to worry about any impact hazards other than the ground.

Here's the live link so you can pan around and see the whole course (just drag). Click the compas thing to orbit the current center point:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...1457&encType=1
I'd call that 'esses' instead of a chicane. A chicane is similar (in that its basicaly a left-right-left or right-left-right) except that if you removed the chicane you would have a long straight, and it's main reason to be there is to slow down high HP cars to a safe level on longer straights. http://map.mapnetwork.com/venue/anthem/daytona/
That's the chicane at Daytona when they use the infield course (it's on the back straight).
tfro is offline  
Old 07-18-07, 04:54 PM
  #12  
waterrockets 
Making a kilometer blurry
 
waterrockets's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Austin (near TX)
Posts: 26,130

Bikes: rkwaki's porn collection

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
That makes sense. I guess the crit course I'm doing tomorrow night in Golden, CO has a chicane then

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=39.746835~-105.176851&style=a&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=10310887&encType=1

Unfortunately, I wouldn't call it a crit as they do here, as it's like 1.5 miles/lap...
waterrockets is offline  
Old 07-18-07, 07:08 PM
  #13  
pedex 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: under bridge in cardboard box
Posts: 5,358
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
chicane is a dogleg shaped section.......two parallel straights joined by a short curve
pedex is offline  
Old 07-18-07, 08:01 PM
  #14  
tfro
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 323
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Yeah, I'd say that has a pretty textbook chicane. What is that place in 'real life'? Kinda short to be a car track, too long and boring to be a kart track...
tfro is offline  
Old 07-18-07, 09:12 PM
  #15  
waterrockets 
Making a kilometer blurry
 
waterrockets's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Austin (near TX)
Posts: 26,130

Bikes: rkwaki's porn collection

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by tfro View Post
Yeah, I'd say that has a pretty textbook chicane. What is that place in 'real life'? Kinda short to be a car track, too long and boring to be a kart track...
The first photo up there? That's "The Driveway" in Austin. Some kind of small auto track, but not street cars. I've never been able to find any sites with info on it, or pics of the cars. Lots of skid marks though
waterrockets is offline  
Old 07-19-07, 10:28 AM
  #16  
tfro
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 323
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I was talking about the one in CO. The austin track looks like it could be a fun kart track. Although I think the popular place in Austin to kart is somewhere else.

I wonder if anyone has indoor crits at an indoor kart place? That could be interesting.
tfro is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.