Women in Master's Races?
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Women in Master's Races?
Just saw this yesterday. Is this per USAC rules? Women riders can enter master's races? Awesome. Can master's racers enter women's races?
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Why can a female Cat 2 racer enter the men's Pro/1/2 race to get race miles in her legs, but I can't as a male Cat3?
I realize the rules are the rules, but this kind of favoritism kind of irks me.
I realize the rules are the rules, but this kind of favoritism kind of irks me.
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Bah.
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You men have it easy it many respects. In many cases there are a lot more guys fields compared with women's fields. Even in norcal his year I've seen more than a few promotors drop the women's fields and leave them with no options.
In some cases certain groups og guys can race as many as 3 times in one day.
In some cases certain groups og guys can race as many as 3 times in one day.
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Oh...I'm okay with it. And I have seen a few women last with the men. They usually fade on the last lap/sprint, though.
How come nobody has posted Tammy Thomas photo yet?
How come nobody has posted Tammy Thomas photo yet?
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Hi,
There was a woman in the Masters Men 40+ race in Ontario, CA yesterday. She was in the race for a while but I don't remember seeing her at the end. However, a lot of men got shelled during this race.
Instead of Tammy Thomas, how about a photo of Laura Van Gilder?
There was a woman in the Masters Men 40+ race in Ontario, CA yesterday. She was in the race for a while but I don't remember seeing her at the end. However, a lot of men got shelled during this race.
Instead of Tammy Thomas, how about a photo of Laura Van Gilder?
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Karen Bliss used to win cat3 mens races. That was always cool.
We have a couple gals that do masters races and will sometimes even pop a top10 if conditions work just right.
Marion Clignet almost exclusively raced mens races in France in order to prepare for bigger ladies events. She did well too.
We have a couple gals that do masters races and will sometimes even pop a top10 if conditions work just right.
Marion Clignet almost exclusively raced mens races in France in order to prepare for bigger ladies events. She did well too.
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Dede Demet (Barry) rode in some of the Pro men's races in Superweek in 1993. I was the TV producer for the Sports Channel package. The "executive producer" told me not to show her in the footage because he said it would diminish the race.
He thought that that the average viewer would think "if a girl can do it..."
How lame is that?
He thought that that the average viewer would think "if a girl can do it..."
How lame is that?
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We have at least a few women in SoCal who can hang in the mens races.
It's important for the more competitive ones to get time in big fields so that when they go to the big events they can ride safely in a fast pack and know how to race a big field as well as a small one.
It's important for the more competitive ones to get time in big fields so that when they go to the big events they can ride safely in a fast pack and know how to race a big field as well as a small one.
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We have at least a few women in SoCal who can hang in the mens races.
It's important for the more competitive ones to get time in big fields so that when they go to the big events they can ride safely in a fast pack and know how to race a big field as well as a small one.
It's important for the more competitive ones to get time in big fields so that when they go to the big events they can ride safely in a fast pack and know how to race a big field as well as a small one.
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When they get blown out the back 5 laps in, when I could probably last the entire race (I have before, several times), yet not allowed to, that kind of bothers me.
Why? Because I don't understand why a female Cat 2 is more or less qualified to race against the Pro/1/2 men than a male Cat 3.
Why? Because I don't understand why a female Cat 2 is more or less qualified to race against the Pro/1/2 men than a male Cat 3.
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It's similar in other sports-- a lot of the women at the elite level in things like hockey, soccer, or basketball played against men a lot of the time when they were growing up.
And I've seen 100 lb girls school 200 lb cat 2 guys in a miss & out.
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And if you're that good of a cat 3 just score some points and upgrade.
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I think I know who mkadam is talking about. She did my race as well, the Pro/1-2-3 category. There were two women in our race and I'm not sure if either of them finished because they didn't make the break. Before the break rolled though, they were doing a lot more racing than 95% of the 3's were. I trust the bike handling of many of the Cat. 1 and 2 women more than I trust the bike handling of most of the male 3s.
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When was the last time you raced in a field of 150? I've done 3 NRC races this year and a race with a $30,000 prize list. Two of those races had 150 dudes. I will give this to you though, all four of those races had more men in the Pro/1 field than women in the Pro/1-2 field. The masters race that the original poster was talking about definitely did not have 150 men.
I think I know who mkadam is talking about. She did my race as well, the Pro/1-2-3 category. There were two women in our race and I'm not sure if either of them finished because they didn't make the break. Before the break rolled though, they were doing a lot more racing than 95% of the 3's were. I trust the bike handling of many of the Cat. 1 and 2 women more than I trust the bike handling of most of the male 3s.
I think I know who mkadam is talking about. She did my race as well, the Pro/1-2-3 category. There were two women in our race and I'm not sure if either of them finished because they didn't make the break. Before the break rolled though, they were doing a lot more racing than 95% of the 3's were. I trust the bike handling of many of the Cat. 1 and 2 women more than I trust the bike handling of most of the male 3s.
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I might be in the race at Elk Grove in the 1's/2's if I get a good result this upcoming weekend or next. I personally haven't been in a race with 150 guys, but 100 is a pretty reasonable guess for some of the others. I'm just saying that having raced P/1/2/3 races before, as well as superweek 3's, I think I have a better shot at doing well than a female Cat 2. My fields have all be significantly larger and significantly faster than the women's fields at all of the races. The men's races in the P/1/2 are about 2.5x the size of the women's field.