View Poll Results: Are TT's real bicycle racing?
Of course, real men race TT's
56
48.70%
Of course not, only freds/posers only do TT's
3
2.61%
Yes, but only if you also do mass start racing you ******
40
34.78%
TT's are stupid
6
5.22%
TT helmets are stupider
10
8.70%
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Poll: Are TT's real bicycle racing?
09-17-07, 08:48 AM
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The chances of Pcad ever breaking the hour for 40km are zero point zero. Of course you never know when the right all downhill/tailwind TT course may present itself.
What is 'fixed' botto?
What is 'fixed' botto?
09-17-07, 08:55 AM
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You know what's *REALLY* boring? A 20 MPH flat group ride for an hour followed by a sprint.
Give me a hilly RR any day over either a TT or a crit.
Give me a hilly RR any day over either a TT or a crit.
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09-17-07, 08:55 AM
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He converted your long vowels to short ones. Think about it.
09-17-07, 09:01 AM
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I can't believe I spelled drope the hamer wrong.
My apologies to BF.
My apologies to BF.
09-17-07, 09:35 AM
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Making a kilometer blurry
09-18-07, 04:40 PM
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TT's are also the refuge of the old and the crash-adverse.
09-18-07, 06:02 PM
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I had a long monologue written, but I decided not to post it. I'll just cut to the chase instead.
TT's tell you who is strong. As has been said many times there is more than being strong to be a good bike racer For this reason I think that the time trial is the least interesting of the bike racing disciplines, but it is still bike racing. At times it can be compelling (Armstrong vs Ullrich in the penultimate TdF stage when the GC hung in the balance or Lemond winning on the final TdF stage, for example) and those times can hold great drama.
TT's tell you who is strong. As has been said many times there is more than being strong to be a good bike racer For this reason I think that the time trial is the least interesting of the bike racing disciplines, but it is still bike racing. At times it can be compelling (Armstrong vs Ullrich in the penultimate TdF stage when the GC hung in the balance or Lemond winning on the final TdF stage, for example) and those times can hold great drama.
09-18-07, 06:34 PM
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ITTs are the only true bike races.
The rest are just guys tooling around with wind breaks.
People talk about how stupid and strange bike races would be if there were no anti-design rules. To this I say, "Look at what we got now!" The lack of aerodynamics causing the strongest riders to hide behind sacrificial riders, heavy specialized sprinters being towed along for hours for a few seconds of glory, hopelessly doomed breakaways by superior riders who didn't cooperate to beat the wind?
If riders could better cheat the wind with engineering then bike races would be more about rider versus rider and less about rider versus air.
The rest are just guys tooling around with wind breaks.
People talk about how stupid and strange bike races would be if there were no anti-design rules. To this I say, "Look at what we got now!" The lack of aerodynamics causing the strongest riders to hide behind sacrificial riders, heavy specialized sprinters being towed along for hours for a few seconds of glory, hopelessly doomed breakaways by superior riders who didn't cooperate to beat the wind?
If riders could better cheat the wind with engineering then bike races would be more about rider versus rider and less about rider versus air.
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09-18-07, 06:41 PM
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ITTs are the only true bike races.
The rest are just guys tooling around with wind breaks.
People talk about how stupid and strange bike races would be if there were no anti-design rules. To this I say, "Look at what we got now!" The lack of aerodynamics causing the strongest riders to hide behind sacrificial riders, heavy specialized sprinters being towed along for hours for a few seconds of glory, hopelessly doomed breakaways by superior riders who didn't cooperate to beat the wind?
If riders could better cheat the wind with engineering then bike races would be more about rider versus rider and less about rider versus air.
The rest are just guys tooling around with wind breaks.
People talk about how stupid and strange bike races would be if there were no anti-design rules. To this I say, "Look at what we got now!" The lack of aerodynamics causing the strongest riders to hide behind sacrificial riders, heavy specialized sprinters being towed along for hours for a few seconds of glory, hopelessly doomed breakaways by superior riders who didn't cooperate to beat the wind?
If riders could better cheat the wind with engineering then bike races would be more about rider versus rider and less about rider versus air.
09-18-07, 06:58 PM
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ITTs are the only true bike races.
The rest are just guys tooling around with wind breaks.
People talk about how stupid and strange bike races would be if there were no anti-design rules. To this I say, "Look at what we got now!" The lack of aerodynamics causing the strongest riders to hide behind sacrificial riders, heavy specialized sprinters being towed along for hours for a few seconds of glory, hopelessly doomed breakaways by superior riders who didn't cooperate to beat the wind?
If riders could better cheat the wind with engineering then bike races would be more about rider versus rider and less about rider versus air.
The rest are just guys tooling around with wind breaks.
People talk about how stupid and strange bike races would be if there were no anti-design rules. To this I say, "Look at what we got now!" The lack of aerodynamics causing the strongest riders to hide behind sacrificial riders, heavy specialized sprinters being towed along for hours for a few seconds of glory, hopelessly doomed breakaways by superior riders who didn't cooperate to beat the wind?
If riders could better cheat the wind with engineering then bike races would be more about rider versus rider and less about rider versus air.
09-18-07, 09:24 PM
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This years TDF final TT was the best stage of the tour IMO. That was one of the best stages I have ever seen actually.
09-18-07, 09:46 PM
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ITTs are the only true bike races.
The rest are just guys tooling around with wind breaks.
People talk about how stupid and strange bike races would be if there were no anti-design rules. To this I say, "Look at what we got now!" The lack of aerodynamics causing the strongest riders to hide behind sacrificial riders, heavy specialized sprinters being towed along for hours for a few seconds of glory, hopelessly doomed breakaways by superior riders who didn't cooperate to beat the wind?
If riders could better cheat the wind with engineering then bike races would be more about rider versus rider and less about rider versus air.
The rest are just guys tooling around with wind breaks.
People talk about how stupid and strange bike races would be if there were no anti-design rules. To this I say, "Look at what we got now!" The lack of aerodynamics causing the strongest riders to hide behind sacrificial riders, heavy specialized sprinters being towed along for hours for a few seconds of glory, hopelessly doomed breakaways by superior riders who didn't cooperate to beat the wind?
If riders could better cheat the wind with engineering then bike races would be more about rider versus rider and less about rider versus air.
09-18-07, 09:48 PM
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Oh, and the Classics generally don't follow along with that either. But hey, why use history as an example?
09-18-07, 10:00 PM
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You anti TT dudes are simply jealous of the mighty Pcad Cdale Slice TT/Zipp Speed Weaponry. I understand. You just need a BF/Ryanf Group Hug.
09-18-07, 11:02 PM
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It's so true. You can smell their festering jeal. That's why I love the cheap yanks on the collective chain -- as funny as my burly sub 240 FTP. It makes the group hug better than an airport bathroom.
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09-18-07, 11:04 PM
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09-19-07, 04:21 AM
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I have noticed this about talented local TT dudes: they seem to have a tendency to be unable to use their TT mojo in mass start events to the extent you would expect them to. It generally seems that good bicycle racers tend to either be a nose-in-the-wind-alone rider or a smart tactician who may not be quite as fast but who can smell blood in the water, make the right break or move, etc. Racers who combine both (like Dr. W.) are the exception to the general rule.
09-19-07, 05:42 AM
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I had a long monologue written, but I decided not to post it. I'll just cut to the chase instead.
TT's tell you who is strong. As has been said many times there is more than being strong to be a good bike racer For this reason I think that the time trial is the least interesting of the bike racing disciplines, but it is still bike racing. At times it can be compelling (Armstrong vs Ullrich in the penultimate TdF stage when the GC hung in the balance or Lemond winning on the final TdF stage, for example) and those times can hold great drama.
TT's tell you who is strong. As has been said many times there is more than being strong to be a good bike racer For this reason I think that the time trial is the least interesting of the bike racing disciplines, but it is still bike racing. At times it can be compelling (Armstrong vs Ullrich in the penultimate TdF stage when the GC hung in the balance or Lemond winning on the final TdF stage, for example) and those times can hold great drama.
09-19-07, 06:08 AM
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Making a kilometer blurry
I have noticed this about talented local TT dudes: they seem to have a tendency to be unable to use their TT mojo in mass start events to the extent you would expect them to. It generally seems that good bicycle racers tend to either be a nose-in-the-wind-alone rider or a smart tactician who may not be quite as fast but who can smell blood in the water, make the right break or move, etc. Racers who combine both (like Dr. W.) are the exception to the general rule.