winter training bike
10-10-07, 05:20 PM
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winter training bike
Alright so as a present for finishing some side writing jobs (sidenote: BRAIN is the cycling journal to write for if you want to make cash) I'm looking to build up a winter training rig. The goal is aluminum or steel, sub-$1000 sans wheels with either Shimano 10 or SRAM, and most importantly the clearance to run full fenders front and rear with something close to race geometry. Ideas folks?
10-10-07, 08:48 PM
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Redline Conquest Pro, unless you've already got a 'cross bike.
10-11-07, 12:31 AM
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Might I suggest...9 speed disc wheeled cross bike? Saves the rims (and better wet braking to boot), you can use hardier MTB drive train bits*, and mine came with fender mounts and plenty of clearance.
*I need the 11-32 for climbing in the snow
*I need the 11-32 for climbing in the snow
10-11-07, 02:42 PM
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Then I'd recommend an old Bridgestone RB-1. Back in the early 90s lots of racers used them for cyclocross and road duty. They have a lot of clearance if you get the stock fork. You can run some 28c CC tires.
Find a frameset and put whatever group on it you like (though you'll have a threaded headset and stem to deal with). Unfortunately, the RB1s are still bringing $300-$400 even when they're 17 years old, so no super bargain here, but it is a nice frame.
Let me know if you want some brake-bridge clearance photos. My hill-repeat bike is a single-speed RB-1.
Find a frameset and put whatever group on it you like (though you'll have a threaded headset and stem to deal with). Unfortunately, the RB1s are still bringing $300-$400 even when they're 17 years old, so no super bargain here, but it is a nice frame.
Let me know if you want some brake-bridge clearance photos. My hill-repeat bike is a single-speed RB-1.
10-11-07, 06:52 PM
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Conquest Team /Conquest Pro
Frame Size (C-T) 56cm
A Head Angle 72˚
B Seat Angle 73˚
C Top Tube 56.5
D Chain Stay 43.5
E BB Height 28.5
F Fork Offset 4.5
G Wheel Base 103.1
H Seat Tube 56
Stand Over 80.8
Trek Madone:
Frame Size Head Angle Seat Angle EFF Top Tube Chain Stay Bottom Bracket Offset Wheel Base
A B C D E F G
M 56 cm 73.5° 73.6° 55.7 cm21.9 in 41.0 cm16.1 in 26.6 cm10.5 in 4.0 cm1.6 in 98.3 cm38.7 in
What's the geometry gripe about the Redline frames?
Frame Size (C-T) 56cm
A Head Angle 72˚
B Seat Angle 73˚
C Top Tube 56.5
D Chain Stay 43.5
E BB Height 28.5
F Fork Offset 4.5
G Wheel Base 103.1
H Seat Tube 56
Stand Over 80.8
Trek Madone:
Frame Size Head Angle Seat Angle EFF Top Tube Chain Stay Bottom Bracket Offset Wheel Base
A B C D E F G
M 56 cm 73.5° 73.6° 55.7 cm21.9 in 41.0 cm16.1 in 26.6 cm10.5 in 4.0 cm1.6 in 98.3 cm38.7 in
What's the geometry gripe about the Redline frames?
10-11-07, 07:02 PM
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Wheelbase is stupid long, prefer closer to a 73 degree headtube (better at speed) and the BB is 2cm higher than where I'd like it. All together equals blech ride for the road.
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Just out of curiosity, what gearing are you running on this bike? I'm building up a single speed for hill repeats and commuting, and decided eventually on a 39x16. But I think that might be a bit heavy for grades > 5%. Not sure though, don't really have the experience.
10-12-07, 06:14 AM
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Just out of curiosity, what gearing are you running on this bike? I'm building up a single speed for hill repeats and commuting, and decided eventually on a 39x16. But I think that might be a bit heavy for grades > 5%. Not sure though, don't really have the experience.
It's a tough gear to have on a bike though, because everywhere else, I'm spinning around at 14 mph at ~100 rpm. Yesterday, I hit 28.5mph on a false-flat descent, still in contact with the drivetrain... 205 rpm
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My normal hill is 8.5% average, but near 20% at the bottom. I'm just a touch over-geared in a 39-22.
It's a tough gear to have on a bike though, because everywhere else, I'm spinning around at 14 mph at ~100 rpm. Yesterday, I hit 28.5mph on a false-flat descent, still in contact with the drivetrain... 205 rpm
It's a tough gear to have on a bike though, because everywhere else, I'm spinning around at 14 mph at ~100 rpm. Yesterday, I hit 28.5mph on a false-flat descent, still in contact with the drivetrain... 205 rpm
