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Old 01-04-08, 03:35 PM
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Powertap came in.... now what

Think ive got it all setup correctly (time, date, etc) but got a question.....

How do you start/stop recording when your ride starts/stops? The manual really does suck and either its not there or I missed it.
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Originally Posted by wfrogge
Think ive got it all setup correctly (time, date, etc) but got a question.....

How do you start/stop recording when your ride starts/stops? The manual really does suck and either its not there or I missed it.
Just press any button and it starts to record.

When the ride ends, there is some settings about when it stops records, and when it shuts off.

Although the manual is slightly a PITA, go through the setup stuff for your powertap, it is helpful and allows you to set your recording rate, averaging on display, etc.
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Went through the setup and think im ok there.... To start recording for a new ride to you "clear" before the ride? Just want to make sure my rides dont run together when I look at the data
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Don't clear before a ride unless you have downloaded what's on it.

If you do multiple rides, the download will break them out into time blocks. You can merge them or keep them separate and save them. So, if you get a flat on a long ride, you can merge the two parts, but if you commute in the morning and evening, you can leave those separate, for example.

Don't worry about stopping it. When you see how the graphs come out, you won't care at all about the entire ride. There's no stress about a 95W cooldown at the end of the ride, you can just ignore it, create intervals around your efforts, and study those (this is all with PowerAgent).
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Long as I can merge ill be ok....

Will post my first ride numbers soon
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
Don't clear before a ride unless you have downloaded what's on it.

If you do multiple rides, the download will break them out into time blocks. You can merge them or keep them separate and save them. So, if you get a flat on a long ride, you can merge the two parts, but if you commute in the morning and evening, you can leave those separate, for example.

Don't worry about stopping it. When you see how the graphs come out, you won't care at all about the entire ride. There's no stress about a 95W cooldown at the end of the ride, you can just ignore it, create intervals around your efforts, and study those (this is all with PowerAgent).
Pretty much the same with Cycling Peaks WKO.

As for what next?

Buy Training and Racing with Power, if you haven't already got it
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Pretty much the same with Cycling Peaks WKO.

As for what next?

Buy Training and Racing with Power, if you haven't already got it
I can't wait to get tanned breasts.

I mean WKO+
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A public service announcement:

What was CyclingPeaks WKO+ is now TrainingPeaks WKO+.

That is all.
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Why does everyone think the Saris software is so bad? I'm running it on my Mac and it seems to have the basics. What does Cycling Peaks offer over that (besides Normalized Power)?
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Why does everyone think the Saris software is so bad? I'm running it on my Mac and it seems to have the basics. What does Cycling Peaks offer over that (besides Normalized Power)?
https://www.cyclingpeakssoftware.com/wko/
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Why does everyone think the Saris software is so bad? I'm running it on my Mac and it seems to have the basics. What does Cycling Peaks offer over that (besides Normalized Power)?
Better graphs, season-by-season tracking, comparison of two date ranges, options in terms of graph display, integration with GPS, ability to upload directly to TrainingPeaks.com, email data straight from the program, etc.
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
Better graphs, season-by-season tracking, comparison of two date ranges, options in terms of graph display, integration with GPS, ability to upload directly to TrainingPeaks.com, email data straight from the program, etc.
Vs. the nightmare of having to purchase Windows and VM ware (at a cost of nearly $300) and get it to run on your Mac? Um.. I think I'll try to work with my Powertap SL with this setup. Doesn't it cover the basics of what you really need for a PM training program boys?
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*sigh* this is why I love Linux: Wine.
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
Better graphs, season-by-season tracking, comparison of two date ranges, options in terms of graph display, integration with GPS, ability to upload directly to TrainingPeaks.com, email data straight from the program, etc.
The performance manager and the ability to create custom graphs are my favorite features. IF, TSS, TSB, CTL, ATL, NP, all good. You can do it with a spreadsheet, but it's just a nice place to do it.
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Where are Pcads graphs? Inquiring minds.......
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The performance manager and the ability to create custom graphs are my favorite features. IF, TSS, TSB, CTL, ATL, NP, all good. You can do it with a spreadsheet, but it's just a nice place to do it.
You must be joking.

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Originally Posted by kukusz
IF, TSS, TSB, CTL, ATL, NP, all good.
I was having a hard time understanding this fixation on acronyms until I saw you hail from the Washington DC area. Then it all made sense.
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I was having a hard time understanding this fixation on acronyms until I saw you hail from the Washington DC area. Then it all made sense.
You actually made my wife laugh. That's really difficult.
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Tell her that I've spent ~$3K in the last two years. About 700 hours. And then show her my power #'s.
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Tell her that I've spent ~$3K in the last two years. About 700 hours. And then show her my power #'s.
$3K? You must own like 7 bikesdirect bikes. Definitely not a laughing matter.
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Just the one lovely Moto. But if I told you all I got for that $3K you wouldn't believe me anyway.
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They looked into a Mac version in '06, any idea if they have revisited offering a Mac version.
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I asked this exact question to Andrew Coggan in another thread... though he is not directly linked to the program, he obviously knows the "author" and said he did not think they were looking at moving it to the mac.
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Heh my 5s power is high CAT 5 but my 1min power is high CAT 3........ I NEED MORE DATA !!!!!!
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Heh my 5s power is high CAT 5 but my 1min power is high CAT 3........ I NEED MORE DATA !!!!!!
It's fun, innit? I'm sure our power paths cross somewhere between 1m and 5m -- mine's shaped the other way...
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