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Old 02-24-08, 08:10 PM
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Recovery drinks

What if anything are you guys using as a recovery drink?
Does anyone see any real difference from when they do use a drink or when they don't?
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endurox if i'm especially lazy/hungry when i get done with a ride. otherwise, it's just regular food.
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endurox if i'm especially lazy/hungry when i get done with a ride. otherwise, it's just regular food.
+1 on Endurox. Of the 3 flavors I've tried, lemon-lime is the least offensive, orange is a close second and the fruit punch tastes like day old shrimp shells.
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I've used:
Endurox - nearly undrinkable taste regardless of flavor
Cytomax whatever their recovery drink is - disgusting taste regardless of flavor
ultragen by 1st endurance - cappucino flavor is very tasty, but is very expensive and hard to find
milk - tastes good, is significantly less expensive, and sold everywhere.

I've noticed no difference in recovery, and now just drink milk or chocolate milk as a recovery drink along with a pb&j on wheat.
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Just started trying out the chocolate milk thing. I like it. A bottle of reduced fat chocolate milk is 350-400 cals (I know I said reduced fat might be sub-optimal...but I'd forgotten just how much fat was in whole milk).

Of the cals, it breaks down to something like: 10g fat, 54g carb, 16g protein. Pretty good.
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My understanding is a big part of recovery has to do with protein. I assume if coke is your recovery drink your eating something with it for the protein part?
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Originally Posted by garysol1 View Post
My understanding is a big part of recovery has to do with protein. I assume if coke is your recovery drink your eating something with it for the protein part?
yep.

btw - guess what i drink when i'm riding?

hint: H2O
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hint: H2O
Jack and Coke with a splash of H20?
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Recoverite seems to work for me. I like it. Don't mind the taste. Going to start taking whey before bed to help the HGH while I sleep. Could be hooey, but we'll see if my brain decides it works.
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Old 02-24-08, 08:44 PM
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I got a liking to Champion Nutrition protein shake mixes (you have to have a wand type mixer though) for before or after long rides. Before because it keeps my appetite down for about 2-3 hours minimum. After because it just feels like I'm doing something to recover.

I'll also chow down on pre-prepared food that I've stored and just need to heat up, usually pasta and some meat heavy sauce, i.e. 1 whole package of Italian sausage with a jar of sauce. Pound of Barilla and I'm all set. If I'm really tired I prefer food to shakes.

I usually carry 1 water, 1 electrolyte (Enervit or Gatorade) when I ride. The water is to wash down the Enervit gel or crack packs. If I feel really depleted, peanuts from some general store. I don't really drink recovery/protein stuff on the road but I tried it before. Somehow I don't need it now.

*edit* forgot about difference in recovery - I can ride pretty hard on consecutive days if I simply eat a lot of carbs and protein, whether in shake form or in real food. 4 hours on one day, 6+ on the next, that's okay. For racing, haven't tried it so I don't know.

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Originally Posted by garysol1 View Post
My understanding is a big part of recovery has to do with protein. I assume if coke is your recovery drink your eating something with it for the protein part?
Carbs are king, protein is extra. Obviously Coke is not ideal, but coke and water makes for a pleasant last bottle IMO.

Accelerade, and by extension, Endurox is gross - and it can't be explained by the protein; as a little whey added to other drinks tastes fine.

I use Hammer Recoverite after very hard workouts and it is nearly tasteless. Reduced taste makes these things easier to drink when you really need them.
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Old 02-24-08, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by wanders View Post
+1 on Endurox. Of the 3 flavors I've tried, lemon-lime is the least offensive, orange is a close second and the fruit punch tastes like day old shrimp shells.
It's not so much the taste as it is the smell that makes me want to:



But I have some and will stomach it on occasion.

Today it was 4 pints of Sam Winter Lager, but I'm usually OK w/ a Clif bar followed by lean meat, pasta and an occasional milk based protein drink.
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A glass off choco soy milk
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Endurox cause its free.

Chocolate milk when I don't do endurox.

Haven't noticed a difference between the two.

Point is: get a goodly amount of carbs and a lil protein very quickly after your ride. Don't matter much in what form it comes.
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100% whey protein in a tall glass of orange juice, within the first 30 min. of the end of the workout. Great for BCAAs!

Difference if I don't? Definitely! The other day, after a hard workout, had to rush off to an appointment and skipped the whey drink. Paid for it the next day with very sluggish legs.

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100% whey protein in a tall glass of orange juice,
Whey is a No No for me. Sends my stomach into the red zone.
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Originally Posted by garysol1 View Post
Jack and Coke with a splash of H20?
i never touch bourbon
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Coke immediately off the bike as your body is craving carbs so it will accept simple sugars. Glycogen Synthase production is at a peak so you get quick replenishment but without an insulin spike.

Then a carb/protien shake for the same reason and to top up the BCAA pool and avoid the body taking it from muscle mass within the 1st hour (usually about 45min).

Then a regular meal within the 2nd hour (basically as soon as I can stomach it).

This has worked for me for years. I notice a difference in wattage/HR if I don't use a recovery drink especially if I am doing several hard days in a row.
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Usually high GI real foods for me. Only turn to recovery drinks when the thought of solid food is too much, and then it's usually something of my own making, with whey protein, or milk mixed with chocolate syrup.

Pre-formulated recovery drinks are too expensive unless you're getting them at discount.
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Are you lactose intolerant? Maybe try whey isolate?

I eat carbs, then mix two scoops of whey with one scoop of glutamine in water.
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina View Post
... you get quick replenishment but without an insulin spike...
Most everything I've heard and read on recovery and insulin say that insulin spikes immediately post-workout are good... here's one:

"If an athlete can generate high levels of insulin (an ‘insulin spike’) after exercise, this drives glucose into muscle to regenerate his glycogen stores rapidly..." ...from this link.

...unless I'm not understanding you right, B.D.

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chocolate milk because 1 i'm poor and 2 every study i've read says it works just the same
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Originally Posted by skinnyone View Post
A glass off choco soy milk
+1 silk chocolate soy milk....itsgoooood! and a spoonful of jif peanut butter....
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Originally Posted by rjtokyo View Post
Most everything I've heard and read on recovery and insulin say that insulin spikes immediately post-workout are good... here's one:

"If an athlete can generate high levels of insulin (an ‘insulin spike’) after exercise, this drives glucose into muscle to regenerate his glycogen stores rapidly..." ...from this link.

...unless I'm not understanding you right, B.D.

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Ok. Not clear on my part. What I should have said is without the normal results of an insulin spike.

Insulin is a hormone that triggers a response. Glycogen Synthase is an enzyme that transports glycogen into the cells. Normally, when you have an insulin spike (which would normally happen when drinking something rife with simple sugars like coke) this particular enzyme activity ceases and another enzyme (can't recall exact one) takes over and carries the glycogen instead and it gets stored as fat. (The same thing happens when you go to sleep. Different enzymes are used and sugars get stored in different places.)

This reaction doesn't occur when your body REALLY wants glycogen. It will accept the simple sugars.

I'm not a doctor but this was what I have been taught and have been using for years. Please correct me if I am wrong but be specific. I'm certainly not above learning!

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