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midschool22 04-04-08 11:16 PM

1990 Tour de Trump...
 
I found an old vhs copy of the 1990 Tour de Trump. Watching it takes me back to when I got started in road riding. Anyways, I found some footage from the race on youtube.

The clip has some time trial footage with Lemond, Ekimov and Steve Bauer losing control...

Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEkF2nMl7YU

HigherGround 04-04-08 11:48 PM

Nice clip. It puts in perspective how long Ekimov's career was, from the peak of LeMond's career to the middle of Armstrong's Tour rampage. Bauer came tantalizingly close to pulling out a save from that crash, but at least he avoided the telephone pole!

Dubbayoo 04-05-08 12:01 AM

what that the year dag otto lauritzen won a stage?

patentcad 04-05-08 03:31 AM

Check out the cheesy inspirational music in the background.

How the F did Bauer pull that crash off? Impressive.

P. Ligget sounds like he's 30 years old.

What the F ever happened to Raul Acala?

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YMCA 04-05-08 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 6465157)
What the F ever happened to Raul Acala?

He became Minister of Sport in Monterey (Mexico) a number of years ago, or something like that.

Voodoo76 04-05-08 06:54 AM

Some great racing. Seems like its hard to find a video from that era without a Steve Bauer crash :lol:

carpediemracing 04-05-08 09:22 AM

Some notes:

- John Tesh and his music and commentary before he landed that TV gig of his (the "not Phil" guy who's talking). Tesh was the Liggett of the US for a while, and he put his music everywhere in the background - all the CBS Tour and Paris-Roubaix coverage stuff.
- After the crash Bauer used the now ubiquitous "put your elbows on your bars and hold your STI cables" position, probably the first to do so in a (pro) race, spawning a lot of Cat 3 and 4 copy cats (and appropriate close calls when their forearms slipped). It became illegal for a while (can't rest elbows on bars) then suddenly it was okay.
- That was when Specialized came out with the plastic shell instead of the net for the helmets. It was considered very "aero".
- I was just talking about this crash to someone a few days ago. I should find my tape. I forget who wins the thing, maybe Breukink (PDM), I think that Norweigan guy Atle Kvasvoll (sp?) was second. I'm pretty sure Eki was out of the overall after he rolled both his tires in the first turn of the initial TT/prologue.

Bauer signed for Weinmann and won a Tour TT a year or two later, pushing I think a 55x11, taking the Yellow for a while (he finished 4th I think). Most everyone else used 56x12s at the time, but Suntour offered an 11. Bauer used two disc wheels in a lot of his TTs. So cool looking.

And slightly off topic, Lemond was such the bike racer. I think Phinney said something like Lemond is the epitome of the perfect bike racer. This was after Lemond flatted in a TT (Tour de Trump or du Pont) and still beat Phinney by 30 seconds or so. Aero, churning a huge gear, almost always perfect form.

cdr

botto 04-05-08 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by carpediemracing (Post 6465836)
Some notes:

- John Tesh and his music and commentary before he landed that TV gig of his (the "not Phil" guy who's talking). Tesh was the Liggett of the US for a while, and he put his music everywhere in the background - all the CBS Tour and Paris-Roubaix coverage stuff.
- After the crash Bauer used the now ubiquitous "put your elbows on your bars and hold your STI cables" position, probably the first to do so in a (pro) race, spawning a lot of Cat 3 and 4 copy cats (and appropriate close calls when their forearms slipped). It became illegal for a while (can't rest elbows on bars) then suddenly it was okay.
- That was when Specialized came out with the plastic shell instead of the net for the helmets. It was considered very "aero".
- I was just talking about this crash to someone a few days ago. I should find my tape. I forget who wins the thing, maybe Breukink (PDM),
I think that Norweigan guy Atle Kvasvoll (sp?) was second. I'm pretty sure Eki was out of the overall after he rolled both his tires in the first turn of the initial TT/prologue.

Bauer signed for Weinmann and won a Tour TT a year or two later, pushing I think a 55x11, taking the Yellow for a while (he finished 4th I think). Most everyone else used 56x12s at the time, but Suntour offered an 11. Bauer used two disc wheels in a lot of his TTs. So cool looking.

And slightly off topic, Lemond was such the bike racer. I think Phinney said something like Lemond is the epitome of the perfect bike racer. This was after Lemond flatted in a TT (Tour de Trump or du Pont) and still beat Phinney by 30 seconds or so. Aero, churning a huge gear, almost always perfect form.

cdr

iirc that was '91.

tekhna 04-05-08 10:09 AM

Those 7-11 jerseys were so great. Riding with two discs is ballsey.

carpediemracing 04-05-08 10:12 AM

I looked it up :) Kvalsvoll was second in 90, 91. Last Tour de Trump, first Tour du Pont. First was Alcala and Breukink, both PDM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_de_Trump

Atle was the eternal second in those races. 91 was interesting with Coors Light playing the wild card and doing a lot of damage until the team collectively exploded. They used the JDiscs and the "deep profile" JDisc cover things (wheel resembled a 404) in the time trials. *That* tape I lost, but I liked it more. Cool music among other things.

cdr

botto 04-05-08 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by carpediemracing (Post 6465971)
I looked it up :) Kvalsvoll was second in 90, 91. Last Tour de Trump, first Tour du Pont. First was Alcala and Breukink, both PDM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_de_Trump


Atle was the eternal second in those races. 91 was interesting with Coors Light playing the wild card and doing a lot of damage until the team collectively exploded. They used the JDiscs and the "deep profile" JDisc cover things (wheel resembled a 404) in the time trials. *That* tape I lost, but I liked it more. Cool music among other things.

cdr

they also used those latex skinsuits. probably sweated like pigs in them.

HigherGround 04-05-08 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by carpediemracing (Post 6465836)
- John Tesh and his music and commentary before he landed that TV gig of his (the "not Phil" guy who's talking). Tesh was the Liggett of the US for a while, and he put his music everywhere in the background - all the CBS Tour and Paris-Roubaix coverage stuff.

Once they put out the sound track, it seemed like every criterium promoter in the northeast US felt legally obligated to play the music over the PA system during the race. You couldn't get away from it. I had a video tape of the '86 Paris-Roubaix that I used to play over and over; I'm surprised the tape didn't break. So for better or worse, I kind of have that music embedded in my brain. It's cheesy, but it helps when riding in the wind and the rain on crappy roads. :)

carpediemracing 04-05-08 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by HigherGround (Post 6466044)
So for better or worse, I kind of have that music embedded in my brain. It's cheesy, but it helps when riding in the wind and the rain on crappy roads. :)

+1

king-tony 04-05-08 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 6465157)

What the F ever happened to Raul Acala?

Wasn't he the villain in Batman Begins?

jfmckenna 04-05-08 08:15 PM

Bauer got a quick bike change there yeah? Thanks for the link midschool I enjoyed it. Tour Du Pont used to role right by my apartment in the 90's. I still ride those roads today :D

midschool22 04-05-08 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by jfmckenna (Post 6468479)
Bauer got a quick bike change there yeah? Thanks for the link midschool I enjoyed it. Tour Du Pont used to role right by my apartment in the 90's. I still ride those roads today :D

I have a couple hours of footage from the event. If I had a way to post it on youtube, I would for sure. It has some cool stuff.

socalrider 04-06-08 08:44 AM

I just added a new video on youtube of the 1987 TDf w/ Alcala

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24aa8StJsa4


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