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Sandy Hook TT Report

Old 04-05-08, 02:09 PM
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Sandy Hook TT Report

The rain blew out, the winds kicked up, the beach was gorgeous in the unexpected sunshine, and a good time was had by all. Official times are still pending, Dr. Will crushed everyone's soul with a 14:30 or so, I rode about 18:30. Official times may be faster, the organizers seemed a bit discombobulated, but as long as they equally discombobulate all the times, there won't be a big problem.

Here's Pcad's Ptap file from today:



Note the speed change at the turnaround. It was a struggle to maintain 20mph going out, 27mph or so coming back thanks to the northerly wind, which had to be 10mph to as much as 20mph at times. Add 4mph to those speed figures for Dr. W's ride.

In a few weeks when it's snowing at High Point, we'll be able to say: 'Hey, compared to this Sandy Hook was a day at the beach.' And it was.

And she'll have fun fun fun til her Daddy takes her Ptap awaaayyyy......
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Old 04-05-08, 02:15 PM
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did you end up using the PT to pace yourself today?
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It looks like you were racing by your HR monitor more than your PT from the graph.
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Old 04-05-08, 02:23 PM
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Congrats. Looks like a very solid effort. It's amazing to look at the time difference on your out and in-bound legs. Must have been a pretty stiff wind.
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The Ptap was very useful. At the outset, I noted I was going too hard (see the first two minutes of that ride) and realized I had to calm down, then I settled into a 300+ watt pace. After the turnaround the Ptap was a constant reminder to keep the hammer down and not get lulled by the tailwind that made me go 27mph. Never looked at my HR until after the race here at home. All I can say is that I buried myself as hard as I could today, and that's what I got. That last few minutes into the headwind were very tough. 290 watt average certainly reflects lower wattage for that second half, I was pretty gassed after grinding into the headwind, but got a little stronger in the last 1.5 miles...

I don't know that that headwind was, but I think it was at least a constant 10mph with gusts well above that.

These TTs are a total blast, it was great seeing Dr. Will, very cool vibe. Everybody is very friendly, helpful, supportive, very little Road Nazi bullsiht (not that there's anything wrong with that). The gorgeous beach was a huge bonus today. I just love riding my TT bike in these events. And hopefully I'll get faster. That is the plan.

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thats awesome. now you have some nice numbers to work with too. congrats dude
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Originally Posted by Lithuania View Post
thats awesome. now you have some nice numbers to work with too. congrats dude
That would be the closest thing to an FTP test I've had. Just loving the PTap.

All you guys were right about everything: riding less and training right to get faster, the PTap, etc. I will show my gratitude to the Road Nazi BF Community by the continual spewage of ever more quantities of Pcad Bullsiht.

Tomorrow: 50+ miles with the local Freds. Next week: Central Park Sunday. Can't wait.
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Old 04-05-08, 02:46 PM
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right on man, right on!
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Graphs! Congrats as well. Take it easy on the freds tommorrow
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Old 04-05-08, 03:04 PM
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I don't think the Freds have too much to worry about from Pcad.
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That's a great average there, pcad. Seems like most people were telling you to target 280 or 290. I had you starting at 275, and you whooped the heck out of that. Probably best that you went hardest on the way out anyway (hit the wind hard).
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Congrats pcad!

Hope I can use my Ptap as well as you.
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Nice Job Pcaddy. My report found here.

Short version: I won.
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Old 04-05-08, 04:00 PM
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Pcad- Awesomeness. Great avg. wattage.

DrWJO - Your position must be insanely aerodynamic. Congrats on your race.
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Old 04-05-08, 04:23 PM
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Nice job, man. Looks like this PT thing has you set to make vast improvements.
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin View Post
DrWJO - Your position must be insanely aerodynamic. Congrats on your race.
No kidding, right? 14 min @ 315 into the headwind, 25.5 mph?

All these TT reports have me pretty stoked about doing them now. Especially after today's race
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Originally Posted by NomadVW View Post
No kidding, right? 14 min @ 315 into the headwind, 25.5 mph?

All these TT reports have me pretty stoked about doing them now. Especially after today's race
8 mins. into the headwind, 6 mins with the tailwind. Either way it's scary fast.
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True enough.. either way, 25.5 mph into the headwind @ 315 is super aero... like.. super super aero.
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Dr. W:



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I am pretty sure the SRM was off today. Either that or my HR was demonstrating a real health problem. I am thinking that the Zero offset (which was screwy today...I could not get it to stabilize) coupled with a slope that for some reason read 28.6 instead of 28.2 resulted in maybe a 40-50 watt difference. I averaged a 186bpm HR (LT 181) for the last 6 minutes. Something tells me I was pushing more than 328 watts (last week I averaged 349 watts at a HR of 175 or so for 15 minutes. There was less wind and it was a slower overall speed).

I am aero, but not THAT aero.
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Dr. W. Motor:



PCad Motor:

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Quit selling yourself short Pcad. Just realize that you will continue to improve and that's what counts. I think you're doing great, man.


(Yeah, and I know. I must be back on my meds, right? Maybe. )
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Riding a TT with your pal Dr. W. who smokes you by 6+ mph on the same course is an excellent way to get in touch with your Self Loathing subby. If you did that you wouldn't need meds.

Here is the Pecking Order in Cycling:

Pros

Lower Level Pros

Fast Racer Dudes (the ones who race)

Slow Racer Dudes (the pack fodder)

Freds

Sub Freds

Pre Freds

Dick Pound

Doc Ray

I have elevated into the Pack Fodder group, the highest I ever got was the group just above that, and only on a good day, on rare occasion. That's when I was one of those 36 year old kids.

Dr. W. is a Fast Racer Dude. The only reason he's not a pro is the pay sucks too hard. I have my cycling fantasies like most of you, but any delusions have been driven out of me on painful race at a time. And I still love it. Go figure.

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^^lol
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
Riding a TT with your pal Dr. W. who smokes you by 6+ mph on the same course is an excellent way to get in touch with your Self Loathing subby. If you did that you wouldn't need meds.

Here is the Pecking Order in Cycling:

Pros

Lower Level Pros

Fast Racer Dudes (the ones who race)

Slow Racer Dudes (the pack fodder)

Freds

Sub Freds

Pre Freds

Dick Pound

Doc Ray

I have elevated into the Pack Fodder group, the highest I ever got was the group just above that, and only on a good day, on rare occasion. That's when I was one of those 36 year old kids.

Dr. W. is a Fast Racer Dude. The only reason he's not a pro is the pay sucks too hard. I have my cycling fantasies like most of you, but any delusions have been driven out of me on painful race at a time. And I still love it. Go figure.
I'll be having my moments tomorrow, Pcad: pain, questioning myself and state of mind, self-doubt, self-loathing, the whole nine. I plan on making a hurting happen - whether it be me or the rest.
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