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baiskeli 05-01-08 08:36 AM

Interesting, I'm riding more but not losing weight (actually adding)
 
Normally, the more I ride the more weight I lose. At this point I have about 60 hours on the bike (15-20 of those on a trainer). Now, I know that is small fry for some people but normally by this time most years I've just barely began riding. So I've been mixing it up (rides to work, easy rides, hills, trying to hang with the hammerheads on saturday group ride etc etc). My average speed has gone up and hills that I used to hate I can just power over or spin (once again, this is relative to my performance in prior years). However, my weight has gone up from 175 lbs to 178lbs. What gives, could this be muscle added or should I look to start actively eating less? I have been down to 162lbs in the past (though even then I didn't feel as strong as I do now). For reference, I am 6 ft tall.

I have a race this Sunday and my aim is to hang with the group but the additional weight I am carrying makes me think the hills are going to hurt.

michaelmc 05-01-08 08:42 AM

Eat less.

botto 05-01-08 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by baiskeli (Post 6618066)
Normally, the more I ride the more weight I lose. At this point I have about 60 hours on the bike (15-20 of those on a trainer). Now, I know that is small fry for some people but normally by this time most years I've just barely began riding. So I've been mixing it up (rides to work, easy rides, hills, trying to hang with the hammerheads on saturday group ride etc etc). My average speed has gone up and hills that I used to hate I can just power over or spin (once again, this is relative to my performance in prior years). However, my weight has gone up from 175 lbs to 178lbs. What gives, could this be muscle added or should I look to start actively eating less? I have been down to 162lbs in the past (though even then I didn't feel as strong as I do now). For reference, I am 6 ft tall.

I have a race this Sunday and my aim is to hang with the group but the additional weight I am carrying makes me think the hills are going to hurt.

too late to be worrying about something you can't change.

patentcad 05-01-08 08:49 AM

Welcome to the hellish world of Pcad where you actually gain weight after 110 mile rides.

baiskeli 05-01-08 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by botto (Post 6618114)
too late to be worrying about something you can't change.

I'm not asking with this specific situation in mind. I am resigned to a world of hurt on Sunday

jrennie 05-01-08 09:16 AM

There are two ways to tackle this. One was already mentioned, eat less. The other is finding the natural balance and dealing with it. I started seriously cycling at 150lbs and did nothing but add weight unless I starved myself. I leveled out around 160-163. I know my idea race weight is around 155 but I have no desire to starve myself to get there. Some are willing to make that sacrifice and I did when I was trying to drop from a 240lb tub-o-gu but not anymore.

botto 05-01-08 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by baiskeli (Post 6618332)
I'm not asking with this specific situation in mind. I am resigned to a world of hurt on Sunday

http://geekologie.com/2007/01/24/wine-glass.jpg

substructure 05-01-08 09:21 AM

Do what you can with what you have. I've put on some weight this year as well. I've been training and racing like a mo-fo. But, such is life. Now we must deal with it.

bdcheung 05-01-08 09:25 AM

If you're going to eat less, cut the calories from your meals, not while you're riding.

carpediemracing 05-01-08 09:26 AM

Do a gut check (so to speak). You'll know if you are carrying around a bit more fat. If you are, then, well, you gained some non-essential weight.

If not, you're probably stronger. Have you been lifting, etc? The fastest 10 pounds I ever gained was when I did some pretty hard upper body lifting over a 2-3 month period. I went from barely benching 100 pounds to benching 185 or so (we lifted at work where we had a very nice gym, 3 of us lifted regularly). I gained a lot of upper body mass that actually never went away (I'd be extremely happy to be back at the +10 weight of 164 lbs).

If it makes you feel any better, I'm about your weight and I'm 5 inches shorter than you. Doesn't mean I can climb or anything but I can still ride a bike.

cdr

bitterken 05-01-08 09:30 AM

Your body may be different, but I don't think the actual race season is the time to be losing weight. Since your body goes through all sorts of hell during the season, in particular the repeated anaerobic/muscle tearing beatings, it's hard to get yourself into that aerobic weight loss mode with that required light diet.

For me, the time to lose weight is between December and March (between 'cross and road seasons) - though I think I'll be doing less 'cross now that I'm getting older and could use a longer off-season.

baiskeli 05-01-08 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by carpediemracing (Post 6618438)
Do a gut check (so to speak). You'll know if you are carrying around a bit more fat. If you are, then, well, you gained some non-essential weight.

If not, you're probably stronger. Have you been lifting, etc? The fastest 10 pounds I ever gained was when I did some pretty hard upper body lifting over a 2-3 month period. I went from barely benching 100 pounds to benching 185 or so (we lifted at work where we had a very nice gym, 3 of us lifted regularly). I gained a lot of upper body mass that actually never went away (I'd be extremely happy to be back at the +10 weight of 164 lbs).

If it makes you feel any better, I'm about your weight and I'm 5 inches shorter than you. Doesn't mean I can climb or anything but I can still ride a bike.

cdr

Come to think of it, this year, after every ride, as part of my stretching I do a set of push ups, crunches and back exercises. I didn't do that in prior years.

I did a gut check and yes I do have one. I guess that tells me I can cut back a bit and not lose muscle.
So, will cut back a bit but not on the bike (thanks for that tip bdcheung)

And Botto, I will look at the glass as half-full

baiskeli 05-01-08 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 6618146)
Welcome to the hellish world of Pcad where you actually gain weight after 110 mile rides.

Okay, now I don't feel so bad

waterrockets 05-01-08 09:52 AM

Training will not generally help people lose weight, but dieting will. Nova did a show where they trained 12 sedentary people to complete the Boston Marathon, and the only one who lost her "obese" status was dieting aggressively.

bitterken 05-01-08 09:59 AM

You might also want to think about what you're eating after a workout. Rather then going for whatever is near and easy (chips, cookies, etc.) go for things that will aid in recovery and will serve as cleaning burning fuel for the next day. Food with high fat content and too much sugar may satisfy you now, but may also add some additional padding...

gsteinb 05-01-08 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by baiskeli (Post 6618066)
At this point I have about 60 hours on the bike (15-20 of those on a trainer).

a 60 hour week is a lot for anyone

NoRacer 05-01-08 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by baiskeli (Post 6618066)
Normally, the more I ride the more weight I lose. At this point I have about 60 hours on the bike (15-20 of those on a trainer). Now, I know that is small fry for some people but normally by this time most years I've just barely began riding. So I've been mixing it up (rides to work, easy rides, hills, trying to hang with the hammerheads on saturday group ride etc etc). My average speed has gone up and hills that I used to hate I can just power over or spin (once again, this is relative to my performance in prior years). However, my weight has gone up from 175 lbs to 178lbs. What gives, could this be muscle added or should I look to start actively eating less? I have been down to 162lbs in the past (though even then I didn't feel as strong as I do now). For reference, I am 6 ft tall.

I have a race this Sunday and my aim is to hang with the group but the additional weight I am carrying makes me think the hills are going to hurt.

http://a1468.g.akamai.net/f/1468/580.../74158/200.jpg

baiskeli 05-01-08 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 6618719)
a 60 hour week is a lot for anyone

Whoah! No, I mean I have 60 hours for the year so far starting in February :roflmao::roflmao:

NoRacer 05-01-08 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 6618719)
a 60 hour week is a lot for anyone

Maybe he meant for the year?

carpediemracing 05-01-08 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by NoRacer (Post 6618761)
Maybe he meant for the year?

lol that's funny. I read it as a year too. 60 hours in a week?? lol. That's high even for a BF "boast".

I used to have 80 hours at about now, then add another 70 for the rest of the year. This year I did 150+ so far and now I don't know what to do with myself. 60 hours is not ideal but no season killer. Stick with tactical race courses - mainly crits with a small hill - and you'll be fine.

cdr

timmhaan 05-01-08 10:31 AM

3 lbs? isn't that just a normal daily swing in weight? my weight is always moving around a couple pounds here and there.

FatguyRacer 05-01-08 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by bitterken (Post 6618471)
Your body may be different, but I don't think the actual race season is the time to be losing weight.


This is true. But i've been doing it anyway. I had my biggest loss last week, 5 lbs. This week I cant push myself to ride any harder than a tempo pace. I literally dont have the gas to do it. I'm ok going hard with 1-2 lbs a weeks off. I still dont know how i managed 5lbs. Im not complaining mind you. However, I've pretty much have scratched all my interval workouts for the week and will just concentrating on time in the saddle to the training hours to the prescribed levels. (And lose more weight). I need about 10 more off before the end of the month for when the big crits come up. Doing flat crits is not a big deal for me at 195 lbs.

Quinn8it 05-01-08 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by timmhaan (Post 6618935)
3 lbs? isn't that just a normal daily swing in weight? my weight is always moving around a couple pounds here and there.

+1
I dont know about you Paris, but I swing 3lbs on a daily basis. Thats just 2 lg. water bottles without urination.

merlinextraligh 05-01-08 11:06 AM

^^
Isn't that exactly what everyone said in your thread would happen; try to lose 5lbs a week, and you won't be able to train hard enough.

I'd go back to the 1-2lbs a week, and concentrate on quality training.

FatguyRacer 05-01-08 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by merlinextraligh (Post 6619176)

I'd go back to the 1-2lbs a week, and concentrate on quality training.

What he said.


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