Giro d'Italia Spoiler Thread
05-10-08, 06:53 AM
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Giro d'Italia Spoiler Thread
For those who are watching...
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cycling.tv. I shelled out the money, since I'll most likely be watching it at work too.
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rai international coverage starts at 10:15 mountain time. 
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As long as I get my projects and deliverables out on time, he doesn't what I do.
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I so want Slipstream to win the TTT
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Slipstream now on top after the TTT, 33 seconds ahead of Tinkoff.
Average speed: 53.366 kph / 33.16 mph
Average speed: 53.366 kph / 33.16 mph
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Hi!
I'm watching too. I don't have cyclingtv, so I'm watching a live stream I found on https://cyclingfans.com/
Slippies were awsome. I really think they'll win today.
I'm watching too. I don't have cyclingtv, so I'm watching a live stream I found on https://cyclingfans.com/
Slippies were awsome. I really think they'll win today.
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wow, totally impressive by slipstream. I wish I got to watch their run. High Road also had an interesting strategy by allowing three of their guys to burn themselves out and drop off.
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17:34 CEST
Only two more teams out there. Silence, which is in the process of dropping half the team. And LPR Brakes.
17:35 CEST
Some Lotto riders were able to respond to the attack of their team-mates, but two riders are struggling to get back. They may not get dinner tonight...
17:36 CEST
Lotto is riding in one line again, postponing their club championships for a more appropriate time.
priceless
Only two more teams out there. Silence, which is in the process of dropping half the team. And LPR Brakes.
17:35 CEST
Some Lotto riders were able to respond to the attack of their team-mates, but two riders are struggling to get back. They may not get dinner tonight...
17:36 CEST
Lotto is riding in one line again, postponing their club championships for a more appropriate time.
priceless
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SLIPSTrEAM!
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05-10-08, 09:47 AM
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You know.... thinking about that this is just 3mph above DrW TT boggles my mind. With DrW in the team their avg would have been up by at least another 2mph.
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You have to compare course-to-course. This TTT course, while not overly technical, did have a fair number of turns in it.
Also take into consideration wind conditions, temperature, etc.
I'm not saying DrW is slow, just that it's a bit of a stretch to say that Slipstream would have been 2mph faster with him.
Also take into consideration wind conditions, temperature, etc.
I'm not saying DrW is slow, just that it's a bit of a stretch to say that Slipstream would have been 2mph faster with him.
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My guess is that most of the riders would actually go faster in an ITT than the TTT. it is an added discipline to keep all your guys together. Also, 3 other things
1. lots of turns in this course
2. DWJO is running an optimized position that uci riders can't. The drag difference is huge, like a 40w+ at 30mph.
3. 3mph is a big jump in power at that speed. The difference between 23 and 26 is something us mortals can achieve 26 to 29 possible but 30 to 33 is monster power. I would guess using a uci position it is getting very high 400's for the TT. Hopefully slipstream will put there files on the web like in the past.
1. lots of turns in this course
2. DWJO is running an optimized position that uci riders can't. The drag difference is huge, like a 40w+ at 30mph.
3. 3mph is a big jump in power at that speed. The difference between 23 and 26 is something us mortals can achieve 26 to 29 possible but 30 to 33 is monster power. I would guess using a uci position it is getting very high 400's for the TT. Hopefully slipstream will put there files on the web like in the past.
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jrennie,
I completely concur. As you said, the riders really are losing a lot of speed in the turns [especially when there are nine of them in a line].
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I completely concur. As you said, the riders really are losing a lot of speed in the turns [especially when there are nine of them in a line].
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My guess is that most of the riders would actually go faster in an ITT than the TTT. it is an added discipline to keep all your guys together. Also, 3 other things
1. lots of turns in this course
2. DWJO is running an optimized position that uci riders can't. The drag difference is huge, like a 40w+ at 30mph.
3. 3mph is a big jump in power at that speed. The difference between 23 and 26 is something us mortals can achieve 26 to 29 possible but 30 to 33 is monster power. I would guess using a uci position it is getting very high 400's for the TT. Hopefully slipstream will put there files on the web like in the past.
1. lots of turns in this course
2. DWJO is running an optimized position that uci riders can't. The drag difference is huge, like a 40w+ at 30mph.
3. 3mph is a big jump in power at that speed. The difference between 23 and 26 is something us mortals can achieve 26 to 29 possible but 30 to 33 is monster power. I would guess using a uci position it is getting very high 400's for the TT. Hopefully slipstream will put there files on the web like in the past.
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My interpretation of jrennie's statement is that in an ITT, you can focus on your pacing alone and nothing else. In a TTT, you must also focus on maintaining proper separation to the rider in front of you, and being smooth so as to not overly disturb the one behind you.
That mental concentration is an added burden, and can account for a loss of overall speed/power in a team time trial.
It definitely would be interesting to clock an individual versus a team on a given course...
That mental concentration is an added burden, and can account for a loss of overall speed/power in a team time trial.
It definitely would be interesting to clock an individual versus a team on a given course...
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17:34 CEST
Only two more teams out there. Silence, which is in the process of dropping half the team. And LPR Brakes.
17:35 CEST
Some Lotto riders were able to respond to the attack of their team-mates, but two riders are struggling to get back. They may not get dinner tonight...
17:36 CEST
Lotto is riding in one line again, postponing their club championships for a more appropriate time.
priceless
Only two more teams out there. Silence, which is in the process of dropping half the team. And LPR Brakes.
17:35 CEST
Some Lotto riders were able to respond to the attack of their team-mates, but two riders are struggling to get back. They may not get dinner tonight...
17:36 CEST
Lotto is riding in one line again, postponing their club championships for a more appropriate time.
priceless
I laughed too.
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You're kidding, right? Teams are always faster. If they weren't, then the obvious TTT strategy would be to put the fastest guy at the front and just draft off him the whole race.
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Bingo... While it is conceivable that an extreme course setup or not having enough riders at the finish might hurt the TTT times, these are fringe cases and not the norm.
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Yeah claiming that a protour team can't run a TTT faster than their fastest team member's ITT in identical conditions is a bit far fetched. It's a small margin though.