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Old 05-19-08, 08:14 PM
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taking the plunge

Dear Quentin Read,

The following request to change your USCF category has been approved and processed by USA Cycling:
Member: Quentin Read
License: Road Racer
Request to change category from Cat 3 to Cat 2
exciting, no? time to get my ass severely beaten.
any words of advice?
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Old 05-19-08, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ilpirata87 View Post
exciting, no? time to get my ass severely beaten.
any words of advice?
continue to race, not just ride along "starstruck". you've done the work, gotten the results, and earned the upgrade. congrats and have a great balance of the season. I'll bet you learn alot.
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Old 05-19-08, 08:28 PM
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Vodka for pain, and ice for swelling maybe?
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Old 05-19-08, 08:28 PM
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Congrats!
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Old 05-19-08, 08:36 PM
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That's exciting! After doing one race and watching the other category's, I could never imagine being in anything above cat 5.
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Old 05-19-08, 08:43 PM
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Congrats! I'm still not sure I even want to upgrade... kudos to you for diving in!
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Old 05-19-08, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MDcatV View Post
continue to race, not just ride along "starstruck". you've done the work, gotten the results, and earned the upgrade. congrats and have a great balance of the season. I'll bet you learn alot.
A friend of mine, a 3 with a half dozen 3s races under his belt, came flying by me a lap or two into his first Pro/1/2/3 race yesterday. Then he had to lock up his brakes before the corner. Did this for a couple of laps, trying to move up. There were 120 racers in the field, so it was going to take a while, no matter what he did.

Shortly thereafter, I came hustling by. The difference being that when I chose to apply my energy, I passed 20 people on the hardest section of the course. Jumped from the last third into semi-respectability. Did that a couple more times despite losing a contact (and losing spots in literally every corner because I HAD to open gaps). Was top 20 at the start of the last lap, pulled a teammate down a long straight, and then did my best to keep it upright in the crazy antics that always occur at the finish. Got 28th. My friend got blown out the back about half a dozen laps into the race. Simply because he chose very inappropriate times/sections to make a move for position.

So, the difference between being a strong 3 and a seasoned 2 is this: You're about the same strength. But a 2 knows how to use his energy in an intelligent manner. He learns how to survive, and eventually, become a factor. A 3 who is still a 3 (i.e. still figuring how to beat the 3s) is still almost all motor, not much brains.

Basically, you're a 2 now. That means you've figured out how to race your bike with a decent amount of intelligence. If you survive the first 15-30min without killing yourself and getting blown out, you'll be fine. I promise.
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Old 05-21-08, 06:06 AM
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Thanks for the tips y'all. I'm going to spend the rest of the season honing my tactical skills which I will probably have to use just to stay with the pack. Expect updates soon...
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Old 05-21-08, 06:10 AM
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Congrats/condolences. Good job.
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Old 05-21-08, 07:18 AM
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Very nice. I don't think you'll have any big problems in the 2. You're plenty strong.

Hell, everyone's upgrading now Once my knee heals up I'm running out of excuses to win. My plan for a mandatory upgrade in 2009 still stands!

40 points FTW!

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Old 05-21-08, 08:03 AM
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Looks like you've placed 2nd and 5th in P/1/2/3 races already this year, so I can bet you'll be fine. Just keep training hard, and don't think you can slack off because you're 'there".
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Old 05-21-08, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus View Post
Very nice. I don't think you'll have any big problems in the 2. You're plenty strong.

Hell, everyone's upgrading now Once my knee heals up I'm running out of excuses to win. My plan for a mandatory upgrade in 2009 still stands!

40 points FTW!
Can I upgrade from being in my 40's to being in my 30's or 20's ??
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Old 05-21-08, 08:13 AM
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Old 05-21-08, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent View Post
A friend of mine, a 3 with a half dozen 3s races under his belt, came flying by me a lap or two into his first Pro/1/2/3 race yesterday. Then he had to lock up his brakes before the corner. Did this for a couple of laps, trying to move up. There were 120 racers in the field, so it was going to take a while, no matter what he did.

Shortly thereafter, I came hustling by. The difference being that when I chose to apply my energy, I passed 20 people on the hardest section of the course. Jumped from the last third into semi-respectability. Did that a couple more times despite losing a contact (and losing spots in literally every corner because I HAD to open gaps). Was top 20 at the start of the last lap, pulled a teammate down a long straight, and then did my best to keep it upright in the crazy antics that always occur at the finish. Got 28th. My friend got blown out the back about half a dozen laps into the race. Simply because he chose very inappropriate times/sections to make a move for position.

So, the difference between being a strong 3 and a seasoned 2 is this: You're about the same strength. But a 2 knows how to use his energy in an intelligent manner. He learns how to survive, and eventually, become a factor. A 3 who is still a 3 (i.e. still figuring how to beat the 3s) is still almost all motor, not much brains.

Basically, you're a 2 now. That means you've figured out how to race your bike with a decent amount of intelligence. If you survive the first 15-30min without killing yourself and getting blown out, you'll be fine. I promise.
Very germane advice DoK! W/o any question, the guys pushing the pace in the p1,2's are really out of my league. Using your brains becomes a huge factor, imo. Actually, you'll be forced to think more, because the first time you go in the red and get left behind, it's usually quite severe (for me it was). Hard to explain and every situation is different, but in the 3's your chance of bridging back is a bit easier. Above my ability in the p1,2's though.

If you're younger it will just take some time to develop the ability to sustain an attack or bidge and work (worth a damn) and have something at the end. I'm doing everything I can to raise my threshold power, which will not only help during attacks or covering but tt's as well.

Congrats! Maybe you'll get humbled like me (most) but, riding with stronger/smarter guys will only serve to help you in the long run. Good luck with all!
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Congrats on the upgrade.

In Cat 3 there are a few really strong guys. In P/1/2 pretty much everyone is strong with a few guys having bad days thrown in.

Learn to be patient.
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Congrats! Earning an upgrade to Cat 2 is quite an accomplishment. Enjoy the suffering.
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Old 05-22-08, 02:24 PM
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Congrats. You'll be fine in the 2s. Local races aren't much different from what you've been in. The bigger races (Lowcountry, Carolina Cup, etc.) will be a bit harder, but it's not too bad. The most aggravating thing for me is that I can't double up anymore.
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well done.

hopefully you'll leave that Fredelicious look, you've previously exhibited, back with the peasants.
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