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Old 06-21-08, 09:20 AM
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No Flaming, but what is Ant +???

I've been to the Quarq website but the whole thing seems shrouded in ambiguity. What the heck is it? How does it function, as compared to powertap or SRM or Polar or iBike?
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iBike's seem to work by magic.
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
iBike's seem to work by magic.
By magic, you mean averages based on pretty well known mathematical calculations. See also: Kreuzotter

Remember: It's relative performance that matters, all the rest is moot.
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Originally Posted by rizz
By magic, you mean averages based on pretty well known mathematical calculations. See also: Kreuzotter

Remember: It's relative performance that matters, all the rest is moot.
I was kidding....jeeezus. Why are iBike owners so touchy about their product?
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Relative performance may matter for one on their own, but if you are trying to reach a standard in your training, like watts/kg, then you are going to want to know an absolute number. You will want an accurate power meter. The IBike certainly ain't one!

When I see an IBike on the bike of a top pro I might reconsider
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https://www.quarq.us/FAQ/Frequently-Asked-Questions.html

What the hell is ambiguous about that?
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Let's not restart the iBike threads and say we did. It's all in the archives. Search, people.

To try and be helpful, Ant+ is a wireless transmission protocol. It has nothing to do with how power (or cadence, or heartrate, or speed) is calculated, but in how it's sent from the sensor on your bike to the computer on your bars. If a device is not just Ant+, but has the additional designation "Ant+Sport," then it will inter-operate with other "Ant+Sport" devices. So your SRM powermeter, your iBike speed sensor and your PT heartrate strap will all talk to the Garmin on your bars. Or whatever combo you run. Supposedly it also works better than most of the old proprietary wireless devices, so fewer dropouts, better transmission range, etc.
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
I was kidding....jeeezus. Why are iBike owners so touchy about their product?
I train with a Garmin Edge 305.

Originally Posted by bdaghisallo
Relative performance may matter for one on their own, but if you are trying to reach a standard in your training, like watts/kg, then you are going to want to know an absolute number. You will want an accurate power meter. The IBike certainly ain't one!
So how does watts/kg make a difference? If your lab test comes back and tells you that you're only making 2.25 watts/kg and you've been thinking that you were putting out 2.75 watts/kg, what changes? You'll still ride and train the same.

A power meter's numbers are relatively moot until compared against multiple data sets and then it's how you use it that matters.
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