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Old 09-25-08, 10:45 AM
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New Bike?..or just race my steel

I sold a good race bike just over a year ago. I want to come back to racing in '09 as I really miss training and racing. I'll be starting again as a cat 4 and would like to try to get a cat 3 upgrade as well as race some master's. I just turned 40.

Anyway, all I have now is an early 90's lugged steel Italian Ciocc frame with chrome fork and chrome rear triangle. It currently has a Dura Ace 8 speed group on it with STI shifters. It's a nifty looking bike that fits great and rides even better. Oh yea, I do have a fairly good set of Cane Creek wheels for it. However, I'll need to buy a good racing saddle and a good set of brakes for her....perhaps Ultegra. The only problem I see with it is that the rear wheel often comes out of the rear dropout or comes untrue during rides. I think it is a combination of the rear droput being chromed and my skewer not having enough bite on the dropouts(horizontal). I'll need to find a solution for this. Someone said to take sandpaper and roughen up the dropout surface, while another recommended to try another skewer with more bite...like an Ultegra skewer???

Anyway, should I go ahead and use this bike or should I go out and purchase a new bike for the upcoming season. If I did that I would have a budget of around 2k. That should get me a decent Ultegra equipped bike ready to race.

What say you??
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Old 09-25-08, 10:53 AM
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The late, great Sheldon Brown once personally responded to one of my emails about Ultegra skewers. I was wondering if I should ditch them and buy some titanium skewers instead. He said "Save your money. There's none better than Ultegra."

So yeah, I'd race the Ciocc, keep the 8-speed DA and get a good pair of skewers. Crank those suckers down good.
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Old 09-25-08, 12:35 PM
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The biggest difference between two bikes in a given price range is likely to be the hubs. Have your hubs checked out by a first-rate wheel tech. The difference between the BEST hubs (Campy, or Shimano Dura-Ace) and the mediocre communist chinese hubs that are on most wheels today is dramatic.
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Old 09-25-08, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by alanbikehouston View Post
The biggest difference between two bikes in a given price range is likely to be the hubs. Have your hubs checked out by a first-rate wheel tech. The difference between the BEST hubs (Campy, or Shimano Dura-Ace) and the mediocre communist chinese hubs that are on most wheels today is dramatic.
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Old 09-25-08, 12:46 PM
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I would say race what you got, but get that rear wheel thing resolved first. In fact, you should get that resolved before you throw your leg over that machine again. There are enough hazards inherent to riding a bike and racing. Your rear wheel coming out of the dropout shouldnt be one of them.
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Old 09-25-08, 01:20 PM
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Race the Ciocc. That's what it was made for. Let it live again.

But do get the Ultegra skewer. That's why I dislike horizontal dropouts. I've seen people pull the wheel forward at track races....
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Old 09-25-08, 01:28 PM
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Race the Ciocc. Steel is real. Carbon is overrated.

+1 to killing the Ultegra skewer.
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Old 09-25-08, 01:56 PM
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I would buy a new bike but in general I look for any excuse I can to buy a new bike...I wouldn't buy CF though...go for a CAAD9 like everyone else.
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Old 09-25-08, 03:46 PM
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Don't buy a plastic bike (cf) or a coke can on wheels (alu). Race that steel, baby! I would love to race on a lugged steel Ciocc, that sounds sweet.
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Originally Posted by ilpirata87 View Post
Don't buy a plastic bike (cf) or a coke can on wheels (alu). Race that steel, baby! I would love to race on a lugged steel Ciocc, that sounds sweet.
Buy a used Fuji or Lemond 853 steel bike for yourself then if you fancy racing on steel so much
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Old 09-25-08, 05:28 PM
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I agree, but don't forget the old saying:

"Don't race what you can't replace"
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Old 09-25-08, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by acorn_user View Post
But do get the Ultegra skewer. That's why I dislike horizontal dropouts. I've seen people pull the wheel forward at track races....
QRs aren't legal in mass start track events, and if you've tightened things properly the wheel shouldn't pull, even in a standing start.
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Old 09-25-08, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bitingduck View Post
QRs aren't legal in mass start track events, and if you've tightened things properly the wheel shouldn't pull, even in a standing start.
True, although I've seen a bunch of them at the Richmond Speedway (not an actual velodrome). But the guy I was thinking of didn't tighten down his locknuts properly; he was not using a qr.
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