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Warming embrocation for cool weather racing

Old 10-17-08, 02:38 PM
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Warming embrocation for cool weather racing

What do you guys suggest? Preferably something I can buy at my local drug store.
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Old 10-17-08, 02:46 PM
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Icy Hot.
Warning, do not "rearrange the boys" after applying to legs.
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Old 10-17-08, 02:47 PM
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https://www.belgiumkneewarmers.com/
He'll have lots of ideas listed.

My favorite were always stuff made by a company called "Born".

Drugstore fix - add some wintergreen to a bottle of mineral oil and shake
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Hah found some Tiger Balm at Walgreens! Ill give that stuff a shot
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Old 10-17-08, 03:21 PM
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Drugstore fix - add some wintergreen to a bottle of mineral oil (baby oil) and shake. If it is wet use Olive oil instead of baby oil
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Old 10-17-08, 03:27 PM
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^

funny, i was just emailed this link by an old teammate from scotland - who's forgotten more about emrocation than most will ever know.

btw wforgge - since when is embrocation needed in the vicinity of bluff city?

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Old 10-17-08, 03:38 PM
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lots of people use that tiger balm stuff
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Old 10-17-08, 04:10 PM
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um.... knee warmers?
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Old 10-17-08, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Creakyknees View Post
um.... knee warmers?
Not PRO enough.

Belgian Knee Warmers are where its at!

I've used Qoleum and Sports Balm, but I'm trying the stuff from Mad Alchemy next.
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Old 10-17-08, 05:53 PM
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Leg Salsa. Greyhound Juice. Quoleum.
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flex-power works pretty well for me and my team
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Old 10-17-08, 06:18 PM
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Atomic Balm.

Wait. You said "cool". Nah, don't even think of this stuff then. This is some ride out a Colorado winter without leg warmers, cross races during blizzards, hardcore ****.

Ask CdR's blog.
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Originally Posted by carlfreddy View Post
I've used Qoleum and Sports Balm, but I'm trying the stuff from Mad Alchemy next.
Just got some of the Mad Alchemy stuff. I'm new to the whole embrocation thing but I'm digging it so far.
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Old 10-17-08, 07:12 PM
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Greyhound juice(with a little Vaseline over is during wet cross races).
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Old 10-17-08, 07:23 PM
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Drugstore embrocations are like rubbing peppermint lifesavers on your legs. In times of need I've used a whole (large) tube of Icy Hot, Ben Gay, etc on my legs, with virtually no effect other than chilling my legs and emptying my wallet of $5-7.

Atomic Balm works to bring lots of heat to the surface of your body. It works so well it's somewhat painful when you stop riding and suddenly there isn't a 20-30 mph cooling breeze on your legs (think an air cooled Harley sitting in traffic - the heat doesn't go anywhere and you end up overheating your engine).

https://sprinterdellacasa.blogspot.co...omic-balm.html

No I haven't put turpentine in my current tub of Balm.

Costs about $12 or something, lasts forever, and it's available through many online store. Look for Cramer Atomic Balm.

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Old 10-18-08, 04:31 AM
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Only use vaseline based concoctions on the very, very coldest of days.
You can't sweat through that stuff.
Bad.
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Old 10-19-08, 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by NomadVW View Post
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Absolutely. This stuff is the best. Get the bottle with the applicator under the lid.
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Lessee...
- some unknown $$ on drugstore ingredients, + time spent screwing around on the internet researching recipes, + dishes messed up in the kitchen, + potential spouse pissed-off factor, + race-day screwing around w goopy stuff all over your kit and bike and car and one more thing to do before the race.

or

- $20 on knee warmers. launder occasionally. pull them on before your warm up. if you don't need 'em, pull off at the start line. or, just race with 'em since warm knees are generally a good thing.

Oh that's right, it doesn't look pro.
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Reality: Waste of time. Short of bear grease or whale blubber, which have some insulating properties, embrocation's are placebos or are, in some cases, worse than nothing at all.

Leg or knee warmers.
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Originally Posted by Creakyknees View Post

Oh that's right, it doesn't look pro.
correct.

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Reality: Waste of time. Short of bear grease or whale blubber, which have some insulating properties, embrocation's are placebos or are, in some cases, worse than nothing at all.
You got any evidence to go with that big ol sentence?
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Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
Reality: Waste of time. Short of bear grease or whale blubber, which have some insulating properties, embrocation's are placebos or are, in some cases, worse than nothing at all.

Leg or knee warmers.
No offense, but when have you ever raced a bike in weather other than that found in Texas or California?

You could very well be right, but I'd think that people from cooler areas might have a bit more experience with this sort of thing.
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I actually think RacerEx has a point, even though I use embrocation and therefore might seem like I'd disagree with him.

I don't use emb to insulate, I use it to flagrantly waste a lot of heat energy.

If you have heat in your legs, the heat is coming from somewhere in your body. I liken embrocation to doing something like having both your garage doors open while working on your car in the middle of a snowstorm with the heater inside going full blast. I may feel "warm" in the garage but there is a ton of wasted energy flying out the garage doors.

open garage doors = legs with no covering
closed garage doors = legs with covering

But I usually put shorts/emb when it's about 55-60 and I know I'll be riding hard (race or hard group ride).

I'll use knickers/emb down to 38-40 for races, 45-ish for group rides.

In keeping with the garage door thing, I would also keep the rest of the house really bundled up. On the bike I'll wear booties (with shorts), long finger gloves (with shorts), a windproof vest, at least 2 layers up top, hat, maybe a neck thing.

My goal is to free my legs from clothing restrictions and the embrocation allows me to do that. I'm still warm, my legs are still warm.

Only time this doesn't work is cold rain. Then the heat escapes much quicker than I can generate it. I have no solution for cold rain yet. Cold rain = rain at 32.x-45 degrees F.

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