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Old 11-24-08, 01:55 PM
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Do you agree with this statement? (T w/ P)

"I'll take the 105 equipped welded beercan bike with a power meter any day over the $6000 carbon masterpiece with no power meter, I know I'll be a better rider for it." - John Verheul
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Old 11-24-08, 01:58 PM
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For training, sure. But not for racing.
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Old 11-24-08, 02:03 PM
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Yes. The difference in carbon and aluminum does nothing for you. A powermeter does.

I actually follow that too. Although I am getting a carbon bike as soon as they call me and tell me it's here.


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Old 11-24-08, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sfwhiteman View Post
For training, sure. But not for racing.
why?
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Old 11-24-08, 02:07 PM
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I agree with the statement, if you're dedicated to learning how to use the power meter and following a plan.
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Old 11-24-08, 02:07 PM
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yup
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Old 11-24-08, 02:09 PM
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I concur.
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Old 11-24-08, 02:10 PM
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Yes, I'd take the PM equipped bike. Consider how this season turned out for me racing steel with heavy wheels and a PowerTap: 9 races, 4 wins, one 2nd, including crits and road races.

The previous year, I never placed higher than 15th.
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Old 11-24-08, 02:11 PM
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Tell ya in a year...but probably yes.
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its about the engine, not the car...
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powered beercan FTW
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Old 11-24-08, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dmotoguy View Post
why?
Because for training, all I'm really concerned about is the engine, and how it's performing. I don't care about going faster, I just want to get stronger.

In a race, I just want to win. I'll take every advantage I can get, including the fastest, most reliable equipment.

(I guess a powermeter could be useful for dissecting race data after the fact. I don't own one, so I can't say much about that)
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Old 11-24-08, 02:52 PM
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Beer can with power? What?

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Originally Posted by sfwhiteman View Post
In a race, I just want to win. I'll take every advantage I can get, including the fastest, most reliable equipment.
I'm quite convinced that the potential increase in power from training with a power meter is greater than the power saved by going from the 105 equipmed beer can to the carbon masterpiece.
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Old 11-24-08, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by milliWatts View Post
"I'll take the 105 equipped welded beercan bike with a power meter any day over the $6000 carbon masterpiece with no power meter, I know I'll be a better rider for it." - John Verheul
I'll go ahead and disagree. I'd take the $6000 masterpiece, sell it on ebay, then buy a powermeter and a $3000 Dura Ace/Red/Record equipped "beer can" to put it on.
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Old 11-24-08, 03:14 PM
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even a Ibike Pro power meter? great price but not many product reviews..

Anyone?
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Old 11-24-08, 03:38 PM
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yes, in cycling, there is far too much emphasis on the bike.

(make that on internet forums, in the real world, racers are not as obsessive about toys for their bikes)
 
Old 11-24-08, 03:44 PM
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^^The irony of a guy named "bikeindustryguy" stating that is astounding.

I agree. In fact, I state it in Chapter 2.
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Originally Posted by tbrown524 View Post
even a Ibike Pro power meter? great price but not many product reviews..
Yes, as long as you don'tget too hung up on comparing the numbers to other people... even the iBike will give you the important information for training.
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Old 11-24-08, 04:08 PM
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Never having used one, I'm inclined only to say I wouldn't race a $6,000 masterpiece.
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Old 11-24-08, 07:07 PM
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Ugh...powermeter slinking deeper into my brain...got to the point where I was going to buy used for sub $2000...powermeter, powermeter, why do I sense you're gonna take my money sooner than later? Data, analysis, interpretation, charts, I love thee...but, cash in bad economy, I love thee too...what to do, what to do...(mind dump over, thank you)
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Old 11-24-08, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bostongarden View Post
what to do, what to do...
Seems pretty clear; help boost the economy buy purchasing a new power meter...
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Originally Posted by umd View Post
Yes, as long as you don'tget too hung up on comparing the numbers to other people.
Well, that makes it completely useless for most BFers.
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Old 11-25-08, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by milliWatts View Post
Seems pretty clear; help boost the economy buy purchasing a new power meter...for everyone on the forums.
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