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Old 02-11-09, 11:49 AM
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Valverde's Blood Sample Allegedly Linked to Operacion Puerto Sample

From VeloNews.com: (bold font is my addition)

The Italian Olympic Committee (CONI) on Wednesday summoned Spanish rider Alejandro Valverde to face charges of doping or attempting to dope in relation to the infamous 'Operation Puerto' affair.

The Caisse D'Epargne rider has been asked to appear before Coni at Rome's Stadio Olimpico on Monday.

CONI said it had also informed the rider's team and the International Cycling Union (UCI) of the summons.

The summons relates to a blood-urine sample given by Valverde on July 21, during the 2008 Tour de France after a stage in Italy.

Italian news agency Ansa reported that DNA tests on this sample matched those of blood samples seized from the laboratory of tainted doctor Eufemiano Fuentes, the central figure in the Puerto scandal.

Although the sample Valverde gave during the Tour did not fail any dope tests, it is for the DNA match to the Puerto samples that Valverde has been summoned.


Valverde has long come under suspicion of doping after being implicated in the Puerto affair although nothing came of Spanish investigations into his alleged involvement.

The UCI initially banned the two-time ProTour winner from the 2007 World Championships due to this implication but he took his case to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) which re-instated him.

He is currently the subject of an open case at CAS brought by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) after Spanish authorities washed their hands of the whole Puerto affair.
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Valverde is a one-day specialist who has three times finished on the podium at the World Championships and was second in the 2006 Tour of Spain.
It will be interesting to see if this leads to sanctions for Valverde. If so, I wonder if he will admit to doping, or pull a Basso-style "I only planned to dope" defense?
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Not suprised, and looooonnnnnggggg overdue.
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no shock factor there

who's next, Levi's blood sample from his 1995 Ronde van Namen victory?
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Why can't they just let it go already? This is ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by rankin116 View Post
Why can't they just let it go already? This is ridiculous.
I wish they had been able to go after the offenders in an effective manner back in 2006.
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Originally Posted by rankin116 View Post
Why can't they just let it go already? This is ridiculous.
What's ridiculous about investigating suspected cheaters??? Let it go??? Are you serious??? Do you have any idea why pro cycling is on the cusp of extinction as we know it??? Dogged investigation will serve, at least, the potential purpose of deterring the next racer from poking himself/herself with that needle...
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Statute of limitations?
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Statute of limitations?
I say no such thing. Drastic change requires drastic action, and pro cycling needs a drastic change in culture. It's happening, but too slowly IMO. Ergo, the ends still justify the means currently.
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based on the '06 vuelta valverde should ask for some of his money back. doped up borat and his doped up commrade pwned him.
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Originally Posted by tonyzackery View Post
What's ridiculous about investigating suspected cheaters??? Let it go??? Are you serious??? Do you have any idea why pro cycling is on the cusp of extinction as we know it??? Dogged investigation will serve, at least, the potential purpose of deterring the next racer from poking himself/herself with that needle...
perhaps a bit dramatic don't ya think?
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Originally Posted by tonyzackery View Post
I say no such thing. Drastic change requires drastic action, and pro cycling needs a drastic change in culture. It's happening, but too slowly IMO. Ergo, the ends still justify the means currently.
Ok this gets into an off-topic debate about criminal justice and jurisprudence so I'm just going to drop it.
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Originally Posted by tonyzackery View Post
I say no such thing. Drastic change requires drastic action, and pro cycling needs a drastic change in culture. It's happening, but too slowly IMO. Ergo, the ends still justify the means currently.
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Originally Posted by Crash716 View Post
perhaps a bit dramatic don't ya think?
Don't let the tree occulde your vision of the forest...
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Originally Posted by bdcheung View Post
Ok this gets into an off-topic debate about criminal justice and jurisprudence so I'm just going to drop it.
Thanks for bringing it up though...
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Originally Posted by Crash716 View Post
perhaps a bit dramatic don't ya think?
actually, no. I dont think it is overly dramatic. sponsors rule the sport, without, it goes away as we know it. sponsors are already fleeing because of bad publicity brought upon by doping. add to it that much of the world is in economic recession and cash hording, and its future becomes a bit tenuous.
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Originally Posted by tonyzackery View Post
Don't let the tree occulde your vision of the forest...
if you're gonna use big words and stuff spell them right = occlude
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Originally Posted by tonyzackery View Post
What's ridiculous about investigating suspected cheaters??? Let it go??? Are you serious??? Do you have any idea why pro cycling is on the cusp of extinction as we know it??? Dogged investigation will serve, at least, the potential purpose of deterring the next racer from poking himself/herself with that needle...
It's ridiculous because it is just a sport. Agencies have most likely spent millions and millions of dollars with just OP. It failed before, give this one a rest.

Spend the money and the time catching the people who are currently cheating, not going after something from years ago. Where does it stop? If my tax dollars were being spent on this **** I would be pissed!

I'm also not up on all the rules and regs, but are these anti-doping agencies allowed to do DNA screens on sample submitted for anti-doing controls? Legally speaking, I don't think that would ever fly in the US.
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Originally Posted by tonyzackery View Post
What's ridiculous about investigating suspected cheaters?
What's wrong with casting aspersions based on circumstantial evidence? For example, from your post, we can conclude that you think everyone in pro cycling is a witch, and that means you are a Grand Inquisitor, a sadist, a pervert, and a nut job. What's ridiculous about that assumption?

Now you know how some of these cyclists feel.
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if you're gonna use big words and stuff spell them right = occlude
the spellcheck nasi is bach
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Originally Posted by MDcatV View Post
actually, no. I dont think it is overly dramatic. sponsors rule the sport, without, it goes away as we know it. sponsors are already fleeing because of bad publicity brought upon by doping. add to it that much of the world is in economic recession and cash hording, and its future becomes a bit tenuous.
i understand your points, however...cycling will still exist no matter what, people will still cheat no matter what, sponsors of some sorts will step up no matter what. Sure, it might not be on the "grand scale" you have all grown accustumed to but it will still be here. There will still be ways to watch racing both on and off the TV and ways to be involved in it.

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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
What's wrong with casting aspersions based on circumstantial evidence? For example, from your post, we can conclude that you think everyone in pro cycling is a witch, and that means you are a Grand Inquisitor, a sadist, a pervert, and a nut job. What's ridiculous about that assumption?

Now you know how some of these cyclists feel.
non sequitur
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Originally Posted by rankin116 View Post
It's ridiculous because it is just a sport. Agencies have most likely spent millions and millions of dollars with just OP. It failed before, give this one a rest.

Spend the money and the time catching the people who are currently cheating, not going after something from years ago. Where does it stop? If my tax dollars were being spent on this **** I would be pissed!

I'm also not up on all the rules and regs, but are these anti-doping agencies allowed to do DNA screens on sample submitted for anti-doing controls? Legally speaking, I don't think that would ever fly in the US.
A "sport" where million dollars salaries are paid out.
A "sport" where budgets of teams are in the tens of millions.
I don't really care to go on, but I think you may get the point...
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A "sport" where million dollars salaries are paid out.
A "sport" where budgets of teams are in the tens of millions.
I don't really care to go on, but I think you may get the point...
****, the MLB and NFL are doomed. I mean, someone actually asked President Obama about the A-Rod incident during the White House press conference the other night. If that isn't a nail in the coffin for professional baseball, I don't know what is. Not to mention Congress set up a special hearing - a SPECIAL HEARING - on doping in baseball back in 2005.

Has anyone asked Sarkozy or Zapatero about doping in cycling?
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A "sport" where million dollars salaries are paid out.
A "sport" where budgets of teams are in the tens of millions.
I don't really care to go on, but I think you may get the point...
Actually, no I don't. What does any of that have to do with what I said?
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****, the MLB and NFL are doomed. I mean, someone actually asked President Obama about the A-Rod incident during the White House press conference the other night. If that isn't a nail in the coffin for professional baseball, I don't know what is.

Negative. MLB and NFL are billion dollar institutions. Pro cycling (in the US) is penny-ante stuff relatively speaking...
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