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Old 02-11-09, 01:24 PM
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newbie question...how to attach number?

sounds simple, but I have read tidbits about double pinning, vs single pinning, versus even using glue?


but not anything specific enough on how to do it properly...

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Old 02-11-09, 01:28 PM
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take a piece of paper and practice pinning it on at home, so you don't look like a noob at the big race.

the key is to attach it in a way so that it doesn't become a parachute.
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The safety pin goes in the number, in the jersey, out the jersey, out the number.

Don't use the holes in the number.

Use one pin at each corner, and one pin on each of the sides.

Have someone else pin it on you.
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assuming #s on the side.

7 safety pins

one on ea. corner (4) + 1 middle front and 1 middle top and 1 middle bottom

paper, cloth, cloth, paper.

I like to pin my number onto my jersey by putting the jersey over the steering wheel of my car.

placement on the jersey, depends on the finish line camera in your district, but here it should more or less directly cover the sponsor spot that is on the side of your jersey. most put them on too high.

many racers do, but there is not need to crinkle up your # if you pin it on properly. the key is that you have your # on so that the race camera captures it. crinkling the #, especially on a sunny day, can make it difficult to read on the race finish photo.

if on the back, then I go 8 pins/# and attach them to them to either the side jersey pockets, or if center, then over the center pocket. I like to fold the #s in this instance so that they're not obstructing access to the pockets as I always have some goodies in there.
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Crinkling numbers will get you DQ'd with some officials around here.

Plus it's against the rules.
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By yourself: Lay the jersey over a car fender. If it's a full zip, have it unzipped. Place the bottom of the number along the side seam of the jersey and pin the corner closest to the armpit first. If you want your jersey to last and not rip, the pin should go through the number, then the jersey, back through the jersey, then back through the number. Although the jersey should be flat, do not stretch it (this allows the jersey to pull the number taught when it stretches over your back). Pin the other corners, then add one to middle of the side closest to the neck, and another to the middle of the bottom (near the side seam). Put the jersey on and look at your reflection in a car window. It should lay flat, with the leading edges (the ones with the extra pins) being the most crucial.

If you have teammates or friends: Put the jersey on and have someone else pin it as mentioned above. The only difference is you need to make it taught while pinning this way.
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I always crinkle mine just a little bit, that way if they say anything to me I will just tell them it just happened when I was wearing it. I have also become pretty good at pining my own number. I do it on the hood of the car. The trick is when you are pinning it to pinch up some fabric when you poke the pin through so that way when you put the jersey on it will pull the number tight.
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my wife pins it on me while I 'spread 'em' on the car. If she's not there, car hood, lay it open, 5 pins. number-jersey-number (not using the holes) at the corners and one on the forward facing side. Try it on, figure out where I went wrong and readjust
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thanks guys

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This is going to sound ridiculous, but I found the place where I liked the number and put it on by pinning jersey-number-jersey. Then I take the number off, leave the pins in place and wash like that. I have a "left pinned" jersey, and a "right pinned" jersey. The number is in the same place every time. The only thing that can be different is the size of the number so that I sometimes have to fold an edge under. Makes the fit easy, no brainer, if you have no wife/teammates to help, and only leaves small rust spots next to the entry/exit of the pin on your jersey when you wash it with the pins in. It's not for everyone, but it works fine for me.
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Originally Posted by DrWJODonnell View Post
This is going to sound ridiculous, but I found the place where I liked the number and put it on by pinning jersey-number-jersey. Then I take the number off, leave the pins in place and wash like that. I have a "left pinned" jersey, and a "right pinned" jersey. The number is in the same place every time. The only thing that can be different is the size of the number so that I sometimes have to fold an edge under. Makes the fit easy, no brainer, if you have no wife/teammates to help, and only leaves small rust spots next to the entry/exit of the pin on your jersey when you wash it with the pins in. It's not for everyone, but it works fine for me.
Interesting, and it doesn't make the holes larger from the washings?

for people that use that spray adhesive...does it leave a mess on the jersey?

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When you sign up, ask which side the number goes on. It's not always the same side- it depends on where the officials willl be at the finish. Around here they are usually on the right side of the road but sometimes they are on the left.

Don't fold your number to make it "more aero" (the 21st century version of number crinkling). I have seen guys with all of the margin of their number folded under. The number is a certain size to make it easy to see. When you fold it up it's hard to see amongst all the other graphics and zot stripes on your jersey. Hard to see means you don't get placed.

If you pin it well it won't flap, and if it does, who cares? Just ignore it. Or use it as an excuse- "I would have won but my number was flapping and it slowed me down man".
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Originally Posted by Nimitz87 View Post
Interesting, and it doesn't make the holes larger from the washings?

for people that use that spray adhesive...does it leave a mess on the jersey?

Chad
No. Holes don't get bigger. Never had it catch in the wash I guess. And for the spray adhesive, yes it leaves a mess. I spray my skinsuits (for TTs) always in the same spot, so I don't bother cleaning the residue until it starts getting thick, but any citrisolve or simple green will take it out, no problem.
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Originally Posted by bdcheung View Post
Crinkling numbers will get you DQ'd with some officials around here.

Plus it's against the rules.
Seems like most people do it around here. In the local crit series, your number is likely to get crinkled just from repeated use, if you reuse it.

Why do people do this, anyway? Just to make it sit more flush with the jersey?
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This is going to sound ridiculous, but I found the place where I liked the number and put it on by pinning jersey-number-jersey. Then I take the number off, leave the pins in place and wash like that. I have a "left pinned" jersey, and a "right pinned" jersey. The number is in the same place every time. The only thing that can be different is the size of the number so that I sometimes have to fold an edge under. Makes the fit easy, no brainer, if you have no wife/teammates to help, and only leaves small rust spots next to the entry/exit of the pin on your jersey when you wash it with the pins in. It's not for everyone, but it works fine for me.
ridiculous? no
ingenious? maybe
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ridiculous? no
ingenious? maybe
Next year our kits will feature a white bordered box [ ] in which you can put your number.

To further complicate the kit ordering process, you will now have the following jersey selection:
- SS full zip, left side number
- SS full zip, right side number
- SS full zip, dual numbers
- LS full zip, left side number
- LS full zip, right side number
- LS full zip, dual numbers
- SS 30cm zip, left side number
- SS 30cm zip, right side number
- SS 30cm zip, dual numbers
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And it should be parallel to the ground, facing the camera.
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The only thing that can be different is the size of the number so that I sometimes have to fold an edge under.
My brother actually got reprimanded and ordered to fix his number when he folded the ends. The official didn't even care that we felt the unfolded numbers wouldn't fit him (12 years old and weighed 80 lb). For that race, we were required to have two numbers (one on each side) and they were huge with generous event sponsor space on each one. Nevertheless, we humored the official and unfolded them so that they looked almost like a back support wrapping around most of his torso.
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I pin all the corners, but I do not pin all four edges, just the two that face forward when I'm in the drops. That way, you close up the leading edge, but don't trap in any air that gets in.

A pillow, backpack, or gear bag are nice to pull into the jersey to shape it for pinning solo.
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A pillow, backpack, or gear bag are nice to pull into the jersey to shape it for pinning solo.
I've always used a pillow if there isn't someone else around to pin it on you when warming up on the trainer.
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I've always used a pillow if there isn't someone else around to pin it on you when warming up on the trainer.
You take your woobie to the races with you?
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