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Old 02-14-09, 11:32 AM
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i left the house around 6am, arrived at the site at 7am, got my number and then lolly-gagged around too much...looking to see what everyone else was wearing. went with tights on, but changed to knee/arm warmers, short gloves. went for a ride. cold. came back and put the long finger gloves on and a vest. i guess i probably got in about 15-20min of warmup.

anyways....the first 18mi went like this:

pack: slowing!
me:
pack: speed up
pack: slowing!
me: get the F out of my way!!! stop the gd slowing crap! wtf are you people doing???????
rinse and repeat for 18 friggen miles.

rules - DO NOT CROSS THE CENTERLINE!! so, we start out 6 or 7 wide in an intersection and have to funnel down to a double paceline. i can't get towards the front without going over centerline or up the middle. honestly, i didn't want to go up the middle cause i didn't want to take a chance of crashing and getting hurt again. so, i just stayed towards the back.

i pretty much sat in the first 18mi, felt pretty good, was able to pass ppl on the short rollers/climbs, but still ended up towards the back. dunno how. there was one short climb that i knew i was going to get dropped on, it ranged from 8-11%. i did get dropped, but was able to get right back with the group fairly quickly. we eventually ended up in a single paceline with some of the collegiate gals not giving an inch for getting into the line. oh well, i held my own till the next climb and then found my place in line.

the crash happened on a flat section around 23mi i think. don't know what happened, probably wheels touched. all i saw was bicycles cart-wheeling and girls going down. that took out 6-8 plus me & another girl that stayed up. the pack went right on and there wasn't any chance for me to catch them. 2 of the crashees got up and worked together to get back to me and proceeded to drop my ass. my legs hurt at this point and i just couldn't hang on to their wheel. the last 15mi was pretty much solo.

i have no idea where i placed in the cat4's and at this point, i don't really care. i finished the race and i stayed upright. there were 22 starters, don't know how many were DNF.

not sure if i like these rr's or not...all that damn slowing **** got on my nerves. i mean, wtf? we're in a flat straight section and we're slowing??????? sheesh. as bad as the Burnsville ride last year. next race is not till April at the ACE speedway. i guess i'll give that a try too.

that's it. i'm tired now, legs hurt, need to find some food. at least i did keep the rubber side down.

oh yea, tried to find flatballer, but no luck. told one of the NCSU guys to tell him "wolfpack said hi".
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Old 02-14-09, 11:43 AM
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when they slow - attack. rinse/repeat - establish break.
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i'm going to try my luck in the crit tomorrow cat5 :-(
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My first RR, I thought the same thing. What's with all the breaking on flat straight roads? I was too lazy to get down there by 8AM do I did my team/shop's ride instead. I do have two teammates racing CAT 4 in about 25 min though.

There will be slowing at Ace as well but that's because noone wants to be on the front after some enthusiastic CAT5 ends their pull. In one of those C races last year the group was like a snake going up and down the banking cause everyone kept playing follow the leader.
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Old 02-14-09, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by daytonian View Post
when they slow - attack. rinse/repeat - establish break.
how do you get to the front tho?? couldn't cross centerline, had race official following off the back and i was too wussy to go up the middle. i guess i just need to make sure i'm at the front from the get go next time.
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how do you get to the front tho?? couldn't cross centerline, had race official following off the back and i was too wussy to go up the middle. i guess i just need to make sure i'm at the front from the get go next time.
Seems to be the answer in these situations.
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Old 02-14-09, 02:04 PM
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Was this your first race? Then not crashing and finishing is a pretty good accomplishment.

The slowing happens because someone farther up front uses the brakes or just eases up a bit. Then the rider behind who is not anticipating slows more, the rider behind them slows even more, etc. The farther back you are from the disturbance the more the effect is. I have been near the back when a large pack of 4s comes to a tiny hill and the riders at the back are stopped.... not because the hill is steep but because someone up front threw their bike backwards six inches when they stood and it got magnified by the time it got to the back.

Riding with more experienced riders helps. They are less likely to do something that causes a disturbance in the first place and less likely to slow/brake when someone in front does.
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snuffleupagus and i absolutely shamed the name of the tar heels by both getting dropped in the men's A race. oops. we are both "racing into shape" for the first time. as it turns out, the first few races of that are apparently painful and humiliating affairs. lol.
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Wolfie,
Great going. You finished rubber side up. And now you know what's going on in a race. Learn from it.
Very proud of you.
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Originally Posted by ilpirata87 View Post
snuffleupagus and i absolutely shamed the name of the tar heels by both getting dropped in the men's A race. oops. we are both "racing into shape" for the first time. as it turns out, the first few races of that are apparently painful and humiliating affairs. lol.
Hey bud. Hope you're doing well. Haven't spoken to you in a while. Hopefully we'll be racing against each other again this year.
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yes, this was my first evah rr. i did 2 cx races in january before crashing and breaking my thumb. i've been back outside on the bike since 2/6.

and, yea, i realize i need to be up front next time. and i will.

*edit* thanks Sub!
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congratulations on finishing.

As far as moving up, you need to get comfortable riding closer to people; learn to look for little openings when people give you a little space,and insinuate yourself into those openings. With some more experience you learn to do this smoothly and safely.
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yea, i thought about going right up the middle...there was most likely room for 3 abreast, but, well, first race, i didn't want to do something stupid and wreck myself or others. i don't want any more time off the bike from injuries.

the guys i ride with on a regular basis, we all ride close together at times, really close, but those gals worried me...
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Originally Posted by ilpirata87 View Post
snuffleupagus and i absolutely shamed the name of the tar heels by both getting dropped in the men's A race. oops. we are both "racing into shape" for the first time. as it turns out, the first few races of that are apparently painful and humiliating affairs. lol.


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Let's see. One race. One crash.

That's about right. Glad you weren't hurt. Keep going back, try a race with a wider course that's not quite so jammed up if you can find one. Sounds like you would have been in contention in this race if you hadn't crashed. Good show regaining the peloton after getting gapped on the climb too.
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i didn't crash pcad. there was a crash in front of me, but i saw it go down, bikes cart-wheeling all over the road and girls down. i weaved through the carnage.

thinking back, there was the point where they went to a single paceline....myself and 2 or 3 other gals were left out and they didn't want to let us in. i was strong and i should've went around 2 of the hung out gals and moved to the front. next time. lessons learned.
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The reason you didn't see me is because I was driving follow car (with an official) for the Women's collegiate C field. That was the most boring race I've ever watched. They basically just rode in a group until people fell of the back. I don't think a single person finished together, it was all solo. There were only about 10 starters, and it got smaller fast.

I then drove follow car for the P/1/2 race. That was a lot more interesting to watch. Those guys are FAST. Had to do some fancy driving to get the official alongside to relegate people and yell while not hitting anyone. Also lost our moto official to a mechanical for one of the laps, so we had to keep flying up to the breakaways to see who was there, and then dropping back to the main field again.

After all that driving (about 4 hours worth in the car, plus staging and everything) I finally got to race at 2:45 in the Collegiate C race.

We had the same problem with people not knowing how to ride. Every 4 seconds the entire back of the pack would yell "slowing". People couldn't figure out that when you're bridging a small gap, you don't hammer it, you get halfway and then soft pedal the rest until you coast in. They would fly up the gap, and then slam on the brakes, and everyone behind them would do the same.

After about 10 miles of that yo-yo crap the pace started to pick up. I got hung out in the wind more than I should have while trying to keep the pack together. Once we got to the steep climb in the middle, I was in a bad way. I made it to the top alright, but then couldn't latch on to the group that was only about 5 yards ahead. My HR was spiking and I had nothing left. I didn't even make it the first lap. I also didn't feel like finishing the course, since riding around for another 18 miles by yourself, knowing you got shelled, isn't really my idea of fun.

I'll save it for the crit tomorrow. That's what I'm built for. Hopefully my heart will get under control, because my HR was all sorts of jacked up the entire time. Even warming up I was at my normal threshold HR while just cruising along. Weird, and probably not helping me any.

Off topic: I tried to get a picture of one of the saddest sites I've ever seen. There was a big wreck in the Cat 5 race, and a guy went walking by me with a Reynolds Tubular, looked to be about 50 mm, one of the newer graphics, completely tacoed. It was bent almost in two. Absolutely ridiculous looking.
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Originally Posted by ilpirata87 View Post
snuffleupagus and i absolutely shamed the name of the tar heels by both getting dropped in the men's A race. oops. we are both "racing into shape" for the first time. as it turns out, the first few races of that are apparently painful and humiliating affairs. lol.
What, no way. You guys will be crushin' in no time.

Wow. Nice to see PCad & Merlin comin' into a NC thread. Nice.

FB, do you think the 5 race would have been easier? I skipped it today but feel lazy for doing so.
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i'm not doing the crit tomorrow. i'm gonna hang around here and get a good hard 35-40mi ride in with my Hammer guys.

i'm sure we'll get to meet eventually at one of these races...
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What, no way. You guys will be crushin' in no time.

Wow. Nice to see PCad & Merlin comin' into a NC thread. Nice.

FB, do you think the 5 race would have been easier? I skipped it today but feel lazy for doing so.
I dunno. I've never done just a 5 race, only 4/5. I think Cat 5 and Collegiate C are comparable usually, from what I've learned.

I didn't get to watch the Cat 5 race, or really hear anything about it (except that they had a nasty wreck or two), so I dunno.
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Here's the pics I managed to take. I don't have a very nice camera, and I was busy almost the entire day, but I managed a few.

Part of the parking lot. This was only about half the cars we had I think. Our registration all-told was somewhere over 400 I think.



The trailer-bus combo of Lees McRae. Must be nice to have cycling as a varsity sport.



Some guy



Some more guys



Masters field I think, not finishing, just coming through the finish line



Men's Collegiate C finishing



Some women trying to chase a break (they don't know she's about 10 minutes up the road )



Here's a link to the original sizes that you can actually see

http://s422.photobucket.com/albums/p...0Classic%2009/

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My teammate, mentor, & bf poster tommyrod came in 4th in the CAT4 RR. Good job Tommy.
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I do have two teammates racing CAT 4 in about 25 min though.
3 teammates! Good race for all, I pulled a 4th, somehow. Uphill sprint finishes agree with me

Oh yeah- we caught the Masters 35+ field from behind :0 and the officials neutralized them while we passed.

BTW- the picture above is of our field (Cat 4), not Masters. You can just see my white helmet , second from the right.

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Wolfpack, your race report was so similar to my first cat4/5 race last year, it was as if I was totally reliving the entire race through your post -
The sudden slowing down of the pack for no apparant reason
Getting dropped on the short steep hill and then working my *** off to get back on.
The crash I avoided, but had to stop while the rest of the field went by.
Spending the last 15 miles pedaling my *** off with 2 other riders trying unsuccessfully to get back on.
But it was a great experience nonetheless and I can't wait for race season to start this year!
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Congrats Wolfpack, you will be comfy moving up thru the pack soon enough. And always remember that in Cat 4/5 race a crash will be immediately followed by someone putting the hammer down for a few minutes. Catching up to that is a pain if you don't expect it or respond right away. Also, and this is a tough one to learn, try to not slow down for crashes. Ride thru them. I know it's easier said than done and not always an option but the key is to not react to the crash by hitting your brakes. Very often the rider(s) going down in front of you will be out of the way by the time you get there.

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