AToC - Stage 2
02-16-09, 04:03 PM
#52
Senior Member
So back to my question earlier guys. You all were commenting on Peterson helping Levi. My question was in what way did Peterson help him? Just wondering because I did not see any help.
__________________
BMC Roadmachine
Kona Jake the Snake
BMC Roadmachine
Kona Jake the Snake
02-16-09, 04:03 PM
#53
Senior Member
Are you serious? He was out front all day long - he did exactly the right thing, no honor lost. Leipheimer was snuggled up in the peleton until Bonny Doon Road, and besides he has the yellow jersey, so there's really nothing to complain about here.
02-16-09, 04:04 PM
#56
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Blacksburg, VA
Posts: 4,850
Bikes: Yeti ASRc, Focus Raven 29er, Flyxii FR316
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Had Peterson helped, that would have been the gentlemanly thing to do.
It's done all the time; one guy gets the jersey, and rewards the helper with the stage win.
But, Peterson was probably cooked, and just wanted to make sure he was there at the line. Can't blame him for sitting on.
That was a prediction on my part; I assumed that Peterson would help, and that that's how it would pan out.
It's done all the time; one guy gets the jersey, and rewards the helper with the stage win.
But, Peterson was probably cooked, and just wanted to make sure he was there at the line. Can't blame him for sitting on.
That was a prediction on my part; I assumed that Peterson would help, and that that's how it would pan out.
02-16-09, 04:04 PM
#57
I am the cheese
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Cycling Purgatory (Brooklyn, NY)
Posts: 236
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
02-16-09, 04:04 PM
#58
Senior Member
He didn't, but there was no reason that he should have. A gutsy and smart ride by Peterson.
02-16-09, 04:04 PM
#59
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nor-Cal Bay Area
Posts: 5,088
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
02-16-09, 04:05 PM
#60
Senior Member
02-16-09, 04:06 PM
#61
I am the cheese
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Cycling Purgatory (Brooklyn, NY)
Posts: 236
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
02-16-09, 04:06 PM
#62
Slow'n'Aero
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Driving the pace in the crosswind
Posts: 2,599
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
supposedly a person drafting you prevents the eddies which "suck" on the back of the lead rider, so actually, that descent should have been faster with Peterson on the wheel than if Levi did it solo. There is zero shame in sitting on and taking that win. As mentioned, Levi was tucked in safe for the entire day.
02-16-09, 04:06 PM
#63
Senior Member
No - he was clearly red-lined. Levi kept gapping him by a yard or so, and he was clearly struggling just to hold on for most of that time. You do what you can to get the win, and that's what he did. It's no good to do the "honorable" thing if you get popped and sacrifice the win.
02-16-09, 04:08 PM
#64
Climbing Above It All
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Basking in the Sun.
Posts: 4,146
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Levi never asked for help as he was working for himself and the race lead. Peterson probably couldn't have maintained the pace in the wind anyway. There is some aero advantage to Levi having a rider on his wheel. It makes the slipstream longer and reduces the drag on him. It's nothing like following a wheel but it still helps.
02-16-09, 04:08 PM
#65
Slow'n'Aero
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Driving the pace in the crosswind
Posts: 2,599
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Also, Peterson was on the radio early. I am sure the DS told him to siton and not help. If he had, Levi gifts him the stage. If he didn't, he takes the stage, so either way it works. It would appear that Garmin didn't want him to help...maybe giving Z as much chance as possible to get closer.
02-16-09, 04:08 PM
#66
Carpe Diem
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: MABRA
Posts: 13,149
Bikes: 2007 CAAD9; 2014 CAADX; PedalForce CG1
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
JV posted this on the Slipstream twitter earlier today:
"Tom Peterson is a special kind of diesel engine. We may see the Little Engine That Could come out in force today. JV"
"Tom Peterson is a special kind of diesel engine. We may see the Little Engine That Could come out in force today. JV"
__________________
"When you are chewing the bars at the business end of a 90 mile road race you really dont care what gear you have hanging from your bike so long as it works."
ΛΧΑ ΔΞ179 - 15% off your first Hammer Nutrition order!
"When you are chewing the bars at the business end of a 90 mile road race you really dont care what gear you have hanging from your bike so long as it works."
ΛΧΑ ΔΞ179 - 15% off your first Hammer Nutrition order!
02-16-09, 04:09 PM
#67
Senior Member
02-16-09, 04:09 PM
#68
Senior Member
02-16-09, 04:10 PM
#70
Carpe Diem
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: MABRA
Posts: 13,149
Bikes: 2007 CAAD9; 2014 CAADX; PedalForce CG1
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Levi's stoked. And scruffy.
__________________
"When you are chewing the bars at the business end of a 90 mile road race you really dont care what gear you have hanging from your bike so long as it works."
ΛΧΑ ΔΞ179 - 15% off your first Hammer Nutrition order!
"When you are chewing the bars at the business end of a 90 mile road race you really dont care what gear you have hanging from your bike so long as it works."
ΛΧΑ ΔΞ179 - 15% off your first Hammer Nutrition order!
02-16-09, 04:17 PM
#73
Slow'n'Aero
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Driving the pace in the crosswind
Posts: 2,599
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
The monitor is showing 20 seconds down for the chase group? Is that correct? And Z IS in that group! (I am a Z fan)
02-16-09, 04:24 PM
#74
Slow'n'Aero
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Driving the pace in the crosswind
Posts: 2,599
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Levi, Rogers, Z, Armstrong, horner top five?? Poor Z He ALMOST managed to stick with Levi last year, but with Levi and Lance and Horner...I don't know how Lance will be when they get to that ridiculously steep grade climb in a few days, but I suspect that Astana is going to be dominant.
02-16-09, 06:32 PM
#75
zone 2
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 591
Bikes: BMC Teammachine
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Here are a few shots I took this morning, in the drizzle and rain. For those who know the SF area, this is the junction of the Great Highway and Skyline Boulevard.
