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Old 03-03-09, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by king kong
less ye forget, "10 minutes 41 seconds at the bottom, 35 seconds at the top"-Phil Ligget.

yeah, he did come in second but did he not beat ALL of wien's previous best after 4 years off and did you see how fat he was than compared to the ToC? common folk and folkettes, you may not want to believe it or rather i guess i'm the only one whom can see through it all but no one takes Lance, not unless he decides it's okay.
Lest...lest...and it's about the war dead of WWI. Not about a dickhead Texan.
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Originally Posted by YMCA
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Gent-Wevelgem?
indeed.
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Old 03-03-09, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by YMCA
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Gent-Wevelgem?
Great race and a classic in every sense of the word except for the strict definition, which is mostly historical now and fudged by almost everyone.

I just thought folks would enjoy knowing the origin of the terms "classic" and "monument". The Challenge Desgrange Colombo was the combined efforts of sportswriters of newspapers from Wallonia, Flanders, Italy, and France; together they coined the words and defined them in 1948.
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina
Lest...lest...and it's about the war dead of WWI. Not about a dickhead Texan.
how did you know that king kong was a texan?
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Old 03-03-09, 12:41 PM
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Gent-Wevelgem can not be a Classic; Hincapie has won it.

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Originally Posted by DiabloScott
Great race and a classic in every sense of the word except for the strict definition, which is mostly historical now and fudged by almost everyone.

I just thought folks would enjoy knowing the origin of the terms "classic" and "monument". The Challenge Desgrange Colombo was the combined efforts of sportswriters of newspapers from Wallonia, Flanders, Italy, and France; together they coined the words and defined them in 1948.
thanks for passing this on, I thought <incorrectly> that there were 5 monuments (M-SR, Flanders, P-R, LBL, and Lombardy) and a bunch of "classics", I always wondered why no "classics" were in Spain.
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Originally Posted by king kong
when you cat up, come see me and i'll show you 'bye'.
I'll get right on that
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Originally Posted by MDcatV
I always wondered why no "classics" were in Spain.
If San Sebastian can hold on another 50 years, we'll think about it.
Same for Amstel.
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how about the Coors Classic?

or Classic Coke?
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Originally Posted by MDcatV
thanks for passing this on, I thought <incorrectly> that there were 5 monuments (M-SR, Flanders, P-R, LBL, and Lombardy) and a bunch of "classics", I always wondered why no "classics" were in Spain.
one would assume he's part of the reason.

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Originally Posted by botto
one would assume he's part of the reason.

Franco was anti bicycle?
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Originally Posted by MDcatV
Franco was anti bicycle?
considering how he treated the basques, bai.
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Originally Posted by king kong
i could further irritate the subject and run mental circles around the both of you all day long, even if you two had babies and clanned yourselves in white sheets screaming about nothing but out of respect for gary and this site which i quite thouroughly enjoy the most part of, i won't and you're welcome.

btw, name calling is never appropriate. now it's goodbye.
I do enjoy reading your posts, but you might want to fix your grammar before you start pulling out the mental circles.
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I do enjoy reading your posts, but you might want to fix your grammar before you start pulling out the mental circles.
somehow i get the impression that KK's presence on bf.net will be a fleeting one.
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Originally Posted by botto
considering how he treated the basques, bai.

Everybody sing...

Franco, Franco que tiene el culo blanco
Por que su mujer, lo lava con Ariel.
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I would miserably fail the RBR IQ entrance exam if it contained anything about Spain not covered in For Whom the Bell Tolls, the Sun Also Rises, or the 2003->2006 Vuelta.
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My take on the classics. Essentially any one day race that was on the old Super Prestige Pernod competition was considered a classic. Note Paris-Brussels got kicked off the Super Prestige at one stage due to poor organisation and lost huge amounts of prestige.

Monuments

Milan-San Remo
Tour of Flanders
Paris-Roubaix
Liege-Bastogne-Liege
Tour of Lombardy.

Classics

Paris-Tours
Amstel Gold
Fleche Wallonne
Gent-Wevelgem

Arguably Classics*, were Classics but have lost prestige**, defunct***

San Sebastian*
Paris-Brussels**
GP Suisse/Championship of Zurich**, ***?
Henninger Turm/GP of Frankfurt**, *** (who knows what the Germans are doing?)
Het Volk/Het Nueiwsblad (sp?) *
Bourdeax-Paris ***

Special mention
Vattenfal Classic/Hamburg Protour race. Not a classic. I don't care what anyone says.
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Where's the very boring Schelderprijs fall into this?
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Originally Posted by botto
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Where's the very boring Schelderprijs fall into this?
Semi classic, along with Fleche Braboncone, E3 GP, KBK, etc IMO. I'm with you. I don't get the hype over the Scheldeprijs.
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Originally Posted by botto
depends.

if you're italian. yes.

if you're flemish. no.
Don't know if we're splitting hairs over Flemish/Belgian but I think Tommeke would disagree this year.
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