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The Race Report Thread 2009-2012

Old 05-23-10, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MDcatV
congratulations. i did the P12. 35 miles of criterium racing with a field of 125. it was heavier on the Ps than most of the races i've done. my effin' gawd that was hard. i finished with the pack, which i view as a win of sorts.
Congrats to you, too! A few buddies did the 3 race and they all said it was pretty challenging. Can't imagine the P12. Think it would have been different if it were raining?
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Originally Posted by cmyke
Congrats to you, too! A few buddies did the 3 race and they all said it was pretty challenging. Can't imagine the P12. Think it would have been different if it were raining?
probably more crashing and not ending up in a sprint.
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Wheels on Willy. 5-16-10. 4/5.

Hometown race for my club. We have 5 guys. Myself (doing well this year), one teamate I know is strong, and a couple I don't know (new to the club). At least some of the team were ready and willing to help me today so that was nice going in.

A few laps in, strong teamate was off the front and got pulled in. 2 Juniors from 2 different teams roll of the front smoothly. I think I recognized them as 2/3 of the break that stuck a week ago. The course was a 4 corner rectangle with one of the long sides uphill, then downhill on the next short side. The juniors are pulling off the front. Smoothly, but they are opening a gap fast. On the uphill stretch I see a rider I know from another team launching an attack to bridge up and I shoot over to his wheel. Right after he passes the front riders he sits up and pulls off... Decided not to try?

I kept going and shot out of the pack. Got a small gap around the corner at the top of the hill. Accelerated hard down the short downhill stretch and fast through the next corner. I pulled hard and caught the juniors after half a lap. The three of us worked well together but we were dangling off the front. Three times I decided we would get caught and stopped pulling. After a while we'd pull further off and I'd decide to work again. We kept riding at a steady pace and eventually the gap increased.. At some point a 4th rider bridged up. A big guy. He soft pedals a pull or two. Ok, he just bridged.... He continued soft-pedaling on the front and I encourage him.. no help.. So either this guy has nothing or he's going to take the sprint. I'd be happy with top 4 anyways. A little while later, I asked one of the others in the break if he wanted to try to drop the big guy. I don't think he heard me, and I didn't ask again. I wasn't really thinking about trying to attack these guys and I just sat in and had fun (big crowds at this race compared to normal).. Last lap comes around. I was sitting front riding pretty easy - probably low end of tempo. At the start of the back stretch one of the juniors goes full bore. The other two were right on his wheel. I jumped but a gap opened. 5 meters... 10.... 20.... GO!!!!

I half sprinted the entire back stretch, trying to catch up but not wanting to blow my wad.. There were 2 corners and then half of the next stretch to the finish.. I get within 5 meters of the third wheel by the last corner. The first 2 have started sprinting, big guy in front, and I'm pretty certain I'm racing for third. I squeezed by the attacker to take third.



Hartland Crit. 5-22-10. 4/5

100% flat course. Wide road. Smooth. Only 2 real turns - 90 degrees. wide. oh great - this is going to be boring...

I was 100% rested and felt like a million bucks that morning. Race starts and it's a moderate pace.. People are shifty and nervous.. No one's willing to push it.. 5 or 10 minutes in someone tries a half-hearted attack and is back in half a lap. The pace was getting slower and slower as it went on. I kept my nose out of the wind 100% of the time.

About 20 minutes in, and older looking guy tries a real attack. A full-on jump. He opens a gap right away but then seems to hit a wall. After a lap he's back. I start worrying about bunch sprinting, expecting that we'll be 10 wide going into the last few hundred meters. I don't like that idea... I start scheming about when I should attack. It will have to be during the last lap. I expect many others are thinking about the same thing.

Laps roll by and it is the most boring race of the season. With 2 left My teammate asks if I want him to push the pace. I tell him no. I'm going to attack with 1/2 a lap. Follow the wheels and pick some off...

Last lap... Going down the back stretch we are slow and about 6 wide, I'm second wheel. Next to me is a friend from another team. A 15 year old named Pete. I say "wanna have a go with me? I'm going now" He moves over for me to make sure there's a whole, and I jump with everything I've got.

I pulled away from the pack knowing that there would be at least a couple guys on my wheel, and probably the entire pack strung out single file with small gaps opening here and there. 100 meters into my attack and I'm approaching the last 90 degree turn. It feels like I'm going into the turn twice as fast as we ever went during the race. I take a look over my shoulder while I'm exiting the turn and see I have a big gap. 30-40 meters? There is no one on my wheel. I'm going to win!

Out of that corner I still had 500 or more meters to go. As soon as I could I jumped out of the saddle and back into my sprint. Probably 50 times this year I've practiced this kind of long sprint. Every time it hurts a lot. This time it doesn't hurt at all. After a couple hundred meters I look back again. The gap is bigger. Maybe 75 meters. With that gap I was sure I had it, so all that was left was sprinting the rest of the way. Approaching the line I hear people cheering. I wonder to myself if they are cheering for me, or for people who are about to catch me. 30 meters from the line I take a half-look to the side and don't see any one. I sit up and coast through the line. I think bunch finished a few seconds behind. First win for me. Perfect timing. I was very surprised that I was on my own there. I had tried the same thing a few weeks ago and in that case, others were able to catch my wheel, the pack got very strung out, and 3 guys passed me in the sprint. I was expecting this time that 5-10 other guys had the same exact plan as me. Maybe I just jumped before they were planning to.

I ask Pete if he tried, or why he didn't come. Couldn't make the initial jump. Another guy tells me he tried as well but couldn't latch on. Behind, the pack got strung out and a gap formed after the first 4-5 guys. I think they were all back together for the field sprint.

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Golden State Circuit Race, E4s.

Short story: got crashed out and ended up dropping my chain with 4 laps of a 2.3 mile circuit race to go, no free laps, so I decided to try to time trial back on solo (knew I wasn't going to make it, but figured I'd get a workout in anyway), and made up a few seconds on the field each lap. Started with a 25 second gap, finished 12 seconds behind the field (according to my dad's unofficial timing). Good news for my form, bad news for a result. I suck an non-road races anyway.
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Originally Posted by bostongarden
Good luck in rr.
created the first break, at one point we had 40 seconds on the field, but then someone decided to bridge up to us and all he did was tow the field up to us. 10 minutes later a second break went off, one of my teammates was in it, I blocked, it stuck. at 45 miles into the race I started attacking like crazy knowing that the break was easily going to stick, but that I might be able to either break some legs or at least get away, but three guys marked me and kept chasing me down. with 4 miles to go I settled down and slotted myself in for the field sprint. as near as I can figure (after talking to culprit in the parking lot), with 800m to go, I was sitting 2nd wheel on the right side of the pointy end and feeling fresh, and as we were taking a left turn, some guy (culprit) dive bombed from the middle onto the inside, pushing someone into my lane. all I really remember was landing on my head.

still, we split enough to cover the weekend (minus the broken bike pieces).
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Originally Posted by kensuf
all I really remember was landing on my head.
You OK?

I mean apart from being your usual self and all.
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Golden State Criterium E3: had good legs but burned my matches going for the last prime with a WR-like 700m flyer. If I'd launched from 695m I'd be the proud owner of a LBS gift certificate, but I got caught with 5m to the line. Tried to recover over the last few laps but could only manage a pack finish.

Golden State Circuit Race E3: good legs again and kept repeating to myself to not take any flyers and to stay out of the wind as much as possible. This time, waited too long, did not move up when the time was right, and finished in the pack with a full book of matches.

Sigh.
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Originally Posted by mollusk
You OK?

I mean apart from being your usual self and all.
well, I landed on my head, so I'm going to be OK. I also have got a nice patch of contact rub on my left butt cheek, but nothing major. But hey, we were in the money!
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Marysville Classic RR - 4s race (plus Master A/Bs)

57 miles. Downhill from the start. Flat into the first hill which was 7% for around 3 or 4 miles. Very nasty hill. Turnaround at the top of the hill and then finish on the hill we came down at the start. I dropped a tough rival on the first climb and got in a group of 4 going back to the finish. We stuck our gap and I ended up 2nd. With the work that teammates did and especially since we dropped the guy we were really marking, it was kind of a let down.

First place was a guy none of knew. Seems to always be that way.
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Sussex Crit. 5-23-10. 4/5

Course has a 1/4 mile hill with the finish at the top. After the crest, it's 1/2 mile downhill, about a half mile flat and then a 90 degree turn and up the hill to the finish. Fairly strong tailwind up the hill. It was abnormally hot for Wisconsin. I hadn't slept enough the night before and felt a bit tired / groggy.

Race started and all was together. No one would do any work other than up the hill. Whoever was on the front was soft-pedaling all the way around the rest of the course. Or not pedaling at all on the downhill. A couple laps in I ended up on the front going into the last turn. We were going very slow. I stopped pedaling entirely 50 meters before the corner, then punch it 10 meters before it to create a gap. I go up the hill quicker than we have been before, but not killing it. Paul, a junior who I was in the winning break with a couple weeks ago shoots up to me. We ride together a bit but are caught on the downhill. A couple laps later, Paul jumps on the hill. I go with him and soon Patrick, another Junior, jumps up as well. Patrick was also in the winning break a few weeks ago. (And these two were in another winning break a week before that... they do well attacking).. We stay away a lap or two and get reeled in... Too early to try that. Stupid moves...

The rest of the race consisted of soft pedaling, coasting, and braking the .75 miles of downhill and flat, and sometimes hurrying up the hill. 3 Laps to go, and for some reason there were 2 guys off the front about 30 meters. I was a the front so I jumped hard to bridge up to them. I was sure there was no one on my wheel - as sure as I could be without looking. There was a 3 foot wide crack in the road that was not too good for riding over. It was right in the path I generally found myself taking. I leaned/swerved to just miss the edge of it and hear a "KINK" of someone's wheel hitting it. Whoops.. there is someone behind me. I look back and it's a friend/ally, Pete. I hear him say "F*ck!". I look back again and say Sorry and he's not pedaling. A couple seconds later I look back again and he's going down. ****...

Going up the hill with 2 laps to go (2nd to last time) I'm at the front so I ride up fast enough to put at least some people in pain. Starting the downhill I'm at the front along with Andrew (2nd in the season points), and another Andrew, who is friends with many of the guys on my club (they race or raced together in college). College Andrew sees me up at the front with him and starts talking about leading out. I shrug and say sure and he starts pushing it. He pushes the pace enough to keep it single file for a little ways.. 10 spots maybe... I didn't look back. I yell at him to pull all the way to the last corner (which is maybe 250 meters from the finish.. most of it fairly steep uphill)..

I make my jump 50 meters before the last corner. I pull a nice gap and pedal as much as possible through the corner. I nail it immediately and probably increased the gap. I had maybe 20 meters to Andrew (2nd in points.. he'd came around leadout Andrew)... I expected I'd be passed by at least a few guys. I hoped I wouldn't blow and be passed by 10.

Halfway up the hill I can see Andrew coming up on me. He goes by. Then another. Then another close to me. I follow his wheel for a while and hold off the others for 4th. 200 meters after the finish, Pete is walking back. I stop to apologize and ask what happened, but can't talk for 5-10 seconds. He flatted from the bump. When he started braking the tire (front tire) ended up jamming in his fork or brake. His new bibs have a hole in them but his road rash is minimal. Bike is ok.

Back at the finish, they had a problem with the camera. The judge is looking at a piece of paper with some scribbles. He has 4 numbers written down on the paper. (field of over 40). I tell him I'm 4th. A while later they post initial results with a 4-way tie for 4th. I ran into 2 of the others from the tie, so we found the 4th one and get it sorted out.

That's my 4th top 5 finish in a row. I'm on a roll lately. It's 25 days to the start of the races that are my main goal for the season and my peaking appears to be on track perfectly.

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do any of the norcal racers have any info or know where I can get info about the rider who was helicopter away from the Panoche RR this sunday? I heard he broke his leg, but I came upon him shortly after the fall (he wasn't moving much) and was one of the ppl who notified the officials. I'm wondering if he's ok
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Originally Posted by kudude
do any of the norcal racers have any info or know where I can get info about the rider who was helicopter away from the Panoche RR this sunday? I heard he broke his leg, but I came upon him shortly after the fall (he wasn't moving much) and was one of the ppl who notified the officials. I'm wondering if he's ok
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post10856197
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Originally Posted by kensuf
well, I landed on my head, so I'm going to be OK. I also have got a nice patch of contact rub on my left butt cheek, but nothing major. But hey, we were in the money!


Actually you do have that Cat 1 on the Internet status to protect.

I have given up talking about helmets on team rides with my teammates. It turns out that all the riders with an investment in their brain (college degree or higher) wear a helmet and those without don't. I have stopped preaching.
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I haven't raced in two weeks, so today was the first in a while. After the Aussies moved in, I got sick, and I've had a really bad cough, having lots of phlegm, slightly dehydrated, and spitting out oysters. I'm still not totally over it, but I decided to race today for shiggles.

Well, we were supposed to ride out at 1:15, and I didn't decide to race until 12:55... I cut it close.


Basically, I was everywhere. I was in two breaks, Chase 1, Chase 2, Chase 3, peloton... etc...

I'll try to write a blog tonight...
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Originally Posted by kensuf
created the first break, at one point we had 40 seconds on the field, but then someone decided to bridge up to us and all he did was tow the field up to us. 10 minutes later a second break went off, one of my teammates was in it, I blocked, it stuck. at 45 miles into the race I started attacking like crazy knowing that the break was easily going to stick, but that I might be able to either break some legs or at least get away, but three guys marked me and kept chasing me down. with 4 miles to go I settled down and slotted myself in for the field sprint. as near as I can figure (after talking to culprit in the parking lot), with 800m to go, I was sitting 2nd wheel on the right side of the pointy end and feeling fresh, and as we were taking a left turn, some guy (culprit) dive bombed from the middle onto the inside, pushing someone into my lane. all I really remember was landing on my head.

still, we split enough to cover the weekend (minus the broken bike pieces).
Why do people have to do that, why? I hope you're ok.
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Ahh, the welder!
My teammate and a few others went up the road today, and I tried to bridge up. I look back and I'm just towing the peloton, so I just sat up.
I got a "God verdomme!" for that...
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Seward Park 4/5 - May 13th/20th

13th: Originally planned on only doing the race clinic but ended up racing. Avoided a crash but I had to pretty much come to a stop and by the time I got around the crash I was separated from the pack and spent the rest of the ride suffering.

20th: Smaller group, held on for longer this time around. Couldn't close a gap and got separated. Suffering achieved once again.

BTW, never got to thank MattM, Hida Yanra, and FallsApart for the advice/input a couple weeks ago Anyone else doing the Cascadia Crits these coming weeks?
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I lack the jump to adequately bridge up without dragging the pack, unless it's uphill.
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Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy
I lack the jump to adequately bridge up without dragging the pack, unless it's uphill.
I'm not a sprinter. I can still get separation if I jump from 3-4 riders back and go hard. Try that rather than jumping from the front.
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Originally Posted by .PJ
Seward Park 4/5 - May 13th/20th

13th: Originally planned on only doing the race clinic but ended up racing. Avoided a crash but I had to pretty much come to a stop and by the time I got around the crash I was separated from the pack and spent the rest of the ride suffering.

20th: Smaller group, held on for longer this time around. Couldn't close a gap and got separated. Suffering achieved once again.

BTW, never got to thank MattM, Hida Yanra, and FallsApart for the advice/input a couple weeks ago Anyone else doing the Cascadia Crits these coming weeks?
yep - MattM is done shooting for podiums and is gunning for wins, I'm going to be trying to avoid the express train to Offthebackistan as I haven't touched my bike in weeks...

I anticipate that I'll be at all of them,
be sure you come hit me at our race (Brad Lewis), I'll hook you up with some gels or something like that... I am strongly considering making a whole slew of chocolate chip cookie prime packages, you know you want some.
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Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy
I lack the jump to adequately bridge up without dragging the pack, unless it's uphill.
IIRC, we are a similar weight/height?
I'm no sprinter and everyone on my team is pretty clear on that~ (the other teams too )
I've never had any trouble what-so-ever jumping away on hills, flats, any other time I was in the mood to do it - maybe not the first time, but jumping from +/- 5 back, or getting into the top 10 and the jumping across the road and hitting it hard seems to work well enough. Whether bridging up or going adventuring myself, it is about picking the moment. Everyone who races with RX knows that he is going to go, and they know that he is a huge danger man, but he still gets away - timing is everything.

Data point - so far my power profile is best at 3'-5' max efforts, and I seem to punch way above my class at stuff longer than sprints and shorter than 12' efforts.... so I'm biased to think that it is possible, but examples like RX and DWJD getting away in crits and any other time seem to indicate that planning has a lot to do with it.
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