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arexjay 03-14-09 08:22 PM

+30 mm. Aluminum Rim?
 
The front and rear rims of my Soul 2.0s have been knocked out of true (past the point of being able to be fixed by re-truing the spokes, there's actual rim damage. I'm going to talk to sean about replacements or see what he can do, but that's a different story) in different incidents.

Long story short, I'm looking for a new set of rims.

Criteria:
- more than 30 mm. section (no RR1.2s, CXP 33s, or IRD/Niobium Aeros, plz)
- aluminum (don't think I can justify carbon rims until I upgrade to the 3s)

Can you buy just rims like this? The hubs and spokes are fine (other than a couple), so I'd rather not buy a whole new wheelset. Thanks!

urbanknight 03-14-09 11:59 PM

The only rims over 30mm I know of are H+Son, which are heavy and crap. Other than that, there are the American Classic 420 and Soul S4.0, but those are complete wheels. I've heard that Sean doesn't sell bare rims, but you could call American Classic and ask about theirs, since I hear they sell replacement rims for people who break theirs.

Homebrew01 03-15-09 12:36 AM

You'll probably need different length spokes if you're switching to a different model rim.

fatallightning 03-15-09 02:45 AM

maybe sean can rebuild your 2.0s on 4.0 rims for cheap. cheapish.

queerpunk 03-15-09 05:25 AM

Velocity's B43 (coming out soon) is 43mm deep.

Soil_Sampler 03-15-09 05:31 AM

b43
 

Originally Posted by queerpunk (Post 8532222)
Velocity's B43 (coming out soon) is 43mm deep.


pretty bomber rim!(pun)

http://velocityusa.blogspot.com/

jamiewilson3 03-15-09 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by Soil_Sampler (Post 8532231)
pretty bomber rim!(pun)

http://velocityusa.blogspot.com/

Looks strong, but it will be a porker! Probably will be marketed more for track.

Soil_Sampler 03-15-09 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by jamiewilson3 (Post 8532372)
Probably will be marketed more for track.

street fixd gear.

Jynx 03-15-09 07:12 AM

either way they will probably be 500+ grams

jamiewilson3 03-15-09 07:20 AM

The 30mm deep v is already like 580g, so this guy will probably be more like high 600's and maybe over 700. The reinforcement bridge will kill you on weight.

dmb2786 03-15-09 08:43 AM

I might consider a b43 on the rear for a training set. (i would also race on them because i'm poor)

ElJamoquio 03-15-09 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by urbanknight (Post 8531854)
The only rims over 30mm I know of are H+Son, which are heavy and crap. Other than that, there are the American Classic 420 and Soul S4.0, but those are complete wheels. I've heard that Sean doesn't sell bare rims, but you could call American Classic and ask about theirs, since I hear they sell replacement rims for people who break theirs.

As far as I know, you can't get replacement rims for AC420's unless you're doing warranty replacement.

urbanknight 03-15-09 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by ElJamoquio (Post 8532789)
As far as I know, you can't get replacement rims for AC420's unless you're doing warranty replacement.

Sounds like the OP is SOL.

And if the Deep V weighs over 500g, I can only imagine what that monster weighs.

acorn_user 03-15-09 02:15 PM

Deeep rims - some of these are now out of production *

FIR Sc350*, Gipiemme Tecno 716 (limited distribution here, but available in the UK), Dodici (from VintagePista), DRC UFO Speed, FIR Super Rialto, Campagnolo Atlanta, American Classic AC420 (is available as a rim only in Europe), H+Son (this is aimed at street fixsters).

Those are the ones I can think of. All or them are very hard to find. They lost favour with the onslaught of carbon fibre rims and largely went underground. Urban fixed wheel riders have bought up most of the remaining rims, but they are also the ones causing them to come back from the cold. Giant and Felt are stocking 40mm deep alloy rims on some of their TT/Track bikes, but you can't buy them separately.

Treefox 03-15-09 02:25 PM

Old school Campy Shamal?

urbanknight 03-15-09 05:54 PM

Some of the above suggestions are ignoring the fact that the OP wants to rebuild on existing hubs and therefore needs a specific number of holes. I am unaware of any Shamal rim that came in a 24 hole drilling.

dmotoguy 03-15-09 06:54 PM

h plus son = 42mm @ 580g

Jynx 03-15-09 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by jamiewilson3 (Post 8532493)
The 30mm deep v is already like 580g, so this guy will probably be more like high 600's and maybe over 700. The reinforcement bridge will kill you on weight.


Originally Posted by dmotoguy (Post 8535437)
h plus son = 42mm @ 580g

Jeeze, I didn't realize these were all so heavy. A full build is going to come in at like 2100+ grams.

dmotoguy 03-15-09 07:34 PM

get a protech carbon clincher... its ~415g / 30mm / $450

peterot 03-15-09 08:32 PM

Rolf Prima Vigor (wheel) and another Rolf wheel (name escapes me) 34 mm aluminum.

urbanknight 03-15-09 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by peterot (Post 8536086)
Rolf Prima Vigor (wheel) and another Rolf wheel (name escapes me) 34 mm aluminum.

It would take a little extra mathematics to lace a regular hub to a paired spoke rim. However, I think I've seen Rolf wheels with 14, 16, 18, 20, and 24 spokes. Not sure about 28, though.

peterot 03-15-09 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by urbanknight (Post 8536683)
It would take a little extra mathematics to lace a regular hub to a paired spoke rim.

Just did it with my eyes closed. Try it.

urbanknight 03-15-09 10:23 PM

I knew I should have majored in engineering, but NOOOOO, music was calling me.

arexjay 03-16-09 01:34 AM

Looks like my original hopes are out of the question. Plan B: carbon. I'm looking at the Williams 58 carbon clincher (and other ~40-60mm carbon clinchers, assuming Sean will warrantee my 2.0s).

What's the advantage of a carbon wheel vs. an aluminum wheel of the same/similar height (ex: Soul 4.0, AC 420)?

MONGO! 03-16-09 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by arexjay (Post 8537239)
Looks like my original hopes are out of the question. Plan B: carbon. I'm looking at the Williams 58 carbon clincher (and other ~40-60mm carbon clinchers, assuming Sean will warrantee my 2.0s).

What's the advantage of a carbon wheel vs. an aluminum wheel of the same/similar height (ex: Soul 4.0, AC 420)?

Weight.


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