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Another day at the office for Big George

Old 03-16-09, 06:21 PM
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Another day at the office for Big George

ghincapie: 290 watts average today for 6 hours 45 min. 6700 kjs. Ouch!!!tough day on the bike.
about 8 hours ago from TwitterBerry

Dude is strong!

ghincapie: I forgot 5200 meters of climbing as well.
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Old 03-16-09, 06:44 PM
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Wow. My current FTP is set at 290 watts. I can only 'theoretically' hold that for 1 hour.
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he's 'big' though
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That's just ridiculous.
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There are no words for how ridiculous is is to average nearly 300 watts for 6+ hours. That is off the friggin hinges boys.

That's why he is George Hincapie, and you're not.
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God damn.
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I averaged 290 watts for a 20 min TT. That's what I had. That makes my FTP about 260. What's George's friggin FTP? 500? Good grief.
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It really is unbelievable. Not just George, but other pros, and even guys here like Dr. WJO and RacerEx. If I wasn't so stupid I'd quit riding immediately.
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If I wasn't so stupid I'd quit riding immediately.
But you can't can you? I'm even stupider.

We all are.

We are all F'd.

What a life.
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Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
he's 'big' though
Yeah 6'3" but only 165 pounds. I'm 6' 3"+ but at 185. He averaged 3.87 Watts per kilogram on that ride. I'm still shaking my head.
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Imagine what the guys are doing that are actually winning races.
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Any idea what Da Ulrich could pump out for that amount of time at his peak?
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Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
Imagine what the guys are doing that are actually winning races.
They're not riding around for 6 hours at 290 watts, based on the various training updates I've come across via personal websites and twitter tweets.
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Originally Posted by bdcheung View Post
They're not riding around for 6 hours at 390 watts, based on the various training updates I've come across via personal websites and twitter tweets.
How about at 290, like 'Big' George.

I wonder what 'Big' Jens Voight does. How long until the 'Big' tweet tweet thing blows over? Lance just tweeted that he's picking up his dry cleaning.
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Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post

I wonder what 'Big' Jens Voight does. How long until the 'Big' tweet tweet thing blows over? Lance just tweeted that he's picking up his dry cleaning.
Tweeter has been around for a few years now. It has recently reached the tipping point. It will be here for a while.
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Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
How about at 290, like 'Big' George.

I wonder what 'Big' Jens Voight does. How long until the 'Big' tweet tweet thing blows over? Lance just tweeted that he's picking up his dry cleaning.
oops, typo
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Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
Imagine what the guys are doing that are actually winning races.
George has not only won a lot of big races in his day (including a Tour de France stage) he has successfully completed something like 11 Tours, and I do believe he is always in the top 1/3 of the field, finishing as high as 14th in the G.C. Hardest working man in bike racing. He's also a big man (175 lbs) for a bike racer, so I doubt there are too many guys cranking more watts than George.

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Hincapie at Saint-Flour during the 2004 Tour de France
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United States National U17 Road Race Champion
1991
World U19 Track Cycling Championships, Pursuit - 3rd
1992
1st, TTT, US Olympic Trials
1994 – Motorola-Magniflex
1st, 2 stages & Points Classification, Tour de Luxembourg
1st, Stage 3, West Virginia Classic
1995 – Motorola
1st, 8 of Chaam (Netherlands)
1997 – US Postal
1st, Stage 1, Setmana Catalana
1998 – US Postal
United States National Road Race Cycling Champion
1st, Overall, Killington Stage Race
1999 – US Postal
1st, First Union Classic
1st, Points Competition, Tour de Luxembourg
1st, Stage 6, PruTour
2001 – US Postal
1st, Gent-Wevelgem
1st, BMC San Francisco Grand Prix
2002 – US Postal
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2003 – US Postal
7th, Overall, Tour of Belgium
47th, Overall, Tour de France
2004 – US Postal
1st, Overall, Three Days of De Panne
33rd, Overall, Tour de France
1st, Stage 4 Team Time Trial
2005 – Discovery Channel
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1st, Stage 15
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2006 – Discovery Channel
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2nd, Overall, Eneco Tour of Benelux
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1st, Stage 4 (ITT)
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4th, Overall, Tour of California
1st, Stage 2
1st, Stage 5
2007 – Discovery Channel
1st, Overall, Tour of Missouri
1st, Stage 2
2nd, USPRO National Championships Road Race
20th, Overall, Tour de Georgia
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24th, Overall, Tour de France
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leave it to PCad to miss the point.
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Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
leave it to PCad to be blinded by manlove.
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Originally Posted by timmyquest View Post
Tweeter has been around for a few years now. It has recently reached the tipping point. It will be here for a while.
if they plan on sticking around they need to figure out how to make money.
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
Hardest working man in bike racing.
I thought that was Lance.
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Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
leave it to PCad to miss the point.
Leave it to gsteinb to obfuscate his point so that only he gets it.
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Originally Posted by Lithuania View Post
if they plan on sticking around they need to figure out how to make money.
From what their investors have said, they have a business model ready to launch; they're just waiting for the right time.

though who knows what amount of truth is in that statement.
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Indicating that there are stronger guys out there who win more and bigger races and i wonder what their power is is obfuscation? I kind of think it's you, not me.
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Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
Indicating that there are stronger guys out there who win more and bigger races
Over the course of a career as long as Hincapie's? Not really too many g. He's had a helluva run. My major point is that if there are pros stronger than George, they are marginally stronger. Of course the difference between 14th in the G.C. and podium at the Tour is that margin, but it's not a big one. In other words if George averages 290 watts for 6+ hours, my guess the strongest pro on the planet averages 300 or 310. In other words, I'm sure George is pretty friggin close to that.
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