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Old 10-14-10, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by waterrockets View Post
I dunno. Nothing like a tall glass of chocolate whole milk after a race.
No reason you can't put chocolate in goat's milk, right?
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Originally Posted by caloso View Post
No reason you can't put chocolate in goat's milk, right?
You can, just not after midnight.
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Old 10-14-10, 05:21 PM
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Old 10-14-10, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mike868y View Post
How is it any different from cows milk? Doesn't it still have lactose in it?
there's still plenty of lactose in goat's milk, but the lactose is supposedly very different from the lactose in cow's milk. that being said, i find the low-fat goat's milk to make a nice post-ride drink, especially mixed with some chocolate syrup.

(note: i am not a chemist, i'm trusting my gut)
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Old 10-14-10, 05:35 PM
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meh. I just got back from PR, need to refresh the material. My wife and I practiced yoga on the rooftop deck we had, so doing sun salute poses as the sun rose was pretty nice.
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Old 10-14-10, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mike868y View Post
interesting, I did not know that. How is the taste?
to be honest I can't remember. The last time I had goats milk was when I was about 7.
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Old 10-14-10, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mike868y View Post
interesting, I did not know that. How is the taste?
sorry i missed this one. i think it's better than cow's milk by a country mile.
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Old 10-14-10, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by caloso View Post
No reason you can't put chocolate in goat's milk, right?
The only reason is that we don't have that hippie milk in our fridge
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Old 10-14-10, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mike868y View Post
My sister did that once. we never let her do the tip now.
Man - glad I don't live in America.

That was the thing that probably stressed me out the most when there!

Who do you tip? How much do you tip? When not to tip?

Argghh!

Much simpler when serving staff are simply paid for their work
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Old 10-14-10, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tallmantim View Post
Man - glad I don't live in America.

That was the thing that probably stressed me out the most when there!

Who do you tip? How much do you tip? When not to tip?

Argghh!

Much simpler when serving staff are simply paid for their work
for the most part, people in the service industries...15% normally. I usually do 20% if its a place I frequent and the service is good.
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Old 10-14-10, 06:25 PM
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I'm drinking a soy milk shake which has all sorts of good stuff in it. Wife made it. It's so good I had a second... well, it's like a 2.5 cup serving, so I won't call it a cup. It's a full party plastic mug thing, probably holds about as much as a large water bottle.

I'm shaking I'm so cold, but it's good.
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Old 10-14-10, 06:29 PM
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tonight's movie is "The Shining". Pacing seems a bit slow so far. Also not a fan of the mother's or the kid's acting, both seem rather poor.
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Originally Posted by tallmantim View Post
Man - glad I don't live in America.

That was the thing that probably stressed me out the most when there!

Who do you tip? How much do you tip? When not to tip?

Argghh!

Much simpler when serving staff are simply paid for their work
I forget what tip stands for.

My dad, who grew up in a non-tip environment, never really understood tipping. He'd carefully calculate tips based on service. 10%, 12.5%, 15%. We went to a really good Japanese restaurant and he'd leave such small tips I felt embarrassed. I'd slip $40-50 on the table as we were leaving so that we wouldn't get spit-on food the next time we showed up.

At some point I explained to him. First I asked if he liked the restaurant and if he'd go back there regularly. He said yes to both questions. So I went into the spiel. I explained to him that this is a business arrangement, a long term one. He understood how he wanted to be treated; I pointed out that the restaurant also has expectations. Based on his requests, the restaurant could expect something similar in return. If he asked little, they expected little in return. Showing up with a big family, on a busy night, that's requesting a lot.

We had some family acquaintances that owned a restaurant and paid their help poorly ($2/hour at the time). I reminded him of that. Then I explained to him that the staff rely on tips. I reminded him of the karma thing, that if he gives a little to the restaurant, the restaurant will give back. Finally I explained to him that if we wanted a big table for the family at a busy time, someone that tips well would be seated first.

Well, he started adding 20% to all the tabs - I didn't have to slip money on the table as we left. We got seated on a Friday evening for a table of 8 or 10 or something, with 20 minutes notice. My dad started realizing there was something to this whole tipping thing.

Since it was my mom's favorite restaurant, and since she was okay enough to go eat there, we went there as much as she wanted. This really started the whole thing - he wanted the best for her, and he understood the relationship between the customer and the business. They treated my mom and him really nicely. Everyone knew his name. We got seated right away, every time, no exceptions. After my mom passed, we went there in honor of her - it was actually really emotional and hard to eat for a while. Then, as we got better, he started going there Wednesdays, regularly, with his grandkids and their mom. Then they'd go on Friday or Saturday too, usually trying to drag me and the Missus down or other friends or relatives.

Now he tips 20-25% and he understands how money lubricates things, at least in a restaurant. But only if you care, only if you got good service, and especially if you want to build a long term relationship with the place.

I've also left just change for a tip when served poorly. Like never asking for a coffee refill? In 30 minutes, in a quiet diner in the evening? I think I left 14 cents and let the manager know why I left that tip. That waitress didn't last very long because we went there all the time and she was gone in a couple weeks.

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Old 10-14-10, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Flatballer View Post
tonight's movie is "The Shining". Pacing seems a bit slow so far. Also not a fan of the mother's or the kid's acting, both seem rather poor.
redrum...redrum...REDRUM!

Scared the sh*t out of me when I was a kid. Just creepy now. Probably my favorite King adaptation.
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Old 10-14-10, 06:57 PM
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Just back from 3 hours on the MTB. Stopped on the way back to eat, climbed a granite boulder for a 360 degree view that included Tahoe, Whitney, and a whole lot of desert. Cell phone rang. My teammate:

"Whaddya doing?"

"Sitting on a boulder on top of the world eating turkey on sourdough"

"I'm in Woodward Oklahoma looking at windmills".

I think I won.

Man this is a good G & T.

And damn I'm tired.
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Old 10-14-10, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
Just back from 3 hours on the MTB. Stopped on the way back to eat, climbed a granite boulder for a 360 degree view that included Tahoe, Whitney, and a whole lot of desert. Cell phone rang. My teammate:

"Whaddya doing?"

"Sitting on a boulder on top of the world eating turkey on sourdough"

"I'm in Woodward Oklahoma looking at windmills".

I think I won.

Man this is a good G & T.

And damn I'm tired.

You really have no idea how jealous I am. For the last month I've really been pondering how to quit grad school. Haven't figured out what I'll do yet, so I keep showing up for work...
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I'm thinking about a rather epic ride (for me) tomorrow. 88 miles and 3400 feet. That's about the most climbing I can manage. Riding out to Crowder's Mountain and up. The only real climbing is in the middle at the mountain, before turning around.

At my pathetic pace that'll take me probably 5.5 hours, possibly almost 6 hours, of rolling. It sounds horrible just thinking about it. I really want to do some climbing, and that's the closest climb that I know of.
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Old 10-14-10, 07:13 PM
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Took and passed HTFU 101: Riding in driving rain at 55 degrees F.

I needed to do a 30 min test (not power), and the next few days are either gusty or rainy. So i did mine just when it got dark out. Man, that was miserable.


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I'm thinking about a rather epic ride (for me) tomorrow. 88 miles and 3400 feet. That's about the most climbing I can manage. Riding out to Crowder's Mountain and up. The only real climbing is in the middle at the mountain, before turning around.

At my pathetic pace that'll take me probably 5.5 hours, possibly almost 6 hours, of rolling. It sounds horrible just thinking about it. I really want to do some climbing, and that's the closest climb that I know of.
dude, you live in the piedmonts of NC. You don't need to go anywhere and will still find huge ass hills...
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Old 10-14-10, 07:33 PM
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If you can, forget the bibs, just get a jersey. You can wear the jersey with any black colored bibs. It's unfortunate that you won't be racing as much, but very fortunate that education and family are progressing well =).

You've got to start the WR training plan - 7 hrs a week as hard as you can ;p
My average hourly training before my accident was 6.5-7.5 hours. Most of it was in the threshold range--pacing intervals, 2x20s at 95+%, SST. As long as I get one good long ride in a week, I can keep the hours short.

Also it looks like our team kits will be black next year. I'd just have to go buy some black bibs--right now everything I have is either red or white/blue.
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Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich View Post

dude, you live in the piedmonts of NC. You don't need to go anywhere and will still find huge ass hills...
your definition of huge ass hills must differ from mine. There's a few short steep sections around here, but nothing sustained, no mountains. I enjoy those 15-45 minute climbs in the mountains, those are fun, in a horrible kind of way. I have to drive somewhere to get those though, and I hate driving to ride.
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Old 10-14-10, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich View Post
Took and passed HTFU 101: Riding in driving rain at 55 degrees F.

I needed to do a 30 min test (not power), and the next few days are either gusty or rainy. So i did mine just when it got dark out. Man, that was miserable.




dude, you live in the piedmonts of NC. You don't need to go anywhere and will still find huge ass hills...
The end of my AM ride was in the same heavy rain. It sucked.
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your definition of huge ass hills must differ from mine. There's a few short steep sections around here, but nothing sustained, no mountains. I enjoy those 15-45 minute climbs in the mountains, those are fun, in a horrible kind of way. I have to drive somewhere to get those though, and I hate driving to ride.
45min is no mountain :0
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I took my staff out to lunch and I think I accidentally tipped on top of the automatic "gratuity" they add for large groups. Oh well. I hope I'll get good service next time I go in there.
I did the opposite on our honeymoon. We were in San Fran and pretty much broke. I calculated the tip based on the meal and not the 378% of fees tacked on. I then added the tip to the meal instead of to the total. I realized it while walking out but it was too late. I think it ended up being a 3% tip.
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45min is no mountain :0
It's as long as I've ever done. I don't really care to climb anything longer than that. The climbs I do are generally standing almost the entire time, so more than 45 minutes or so gets pretty old.

If there was something not quite as steep as stuff around here, I wouldn't mind doing a really long cilmb, it would be fun.
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